Okay, we are alive. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey. It's on today's show. I'm a very special guest. Somebody I haven't spoken to in a while. His name is Jason Horsley, H-O-R-S-L-E-Y. And we're going to talk about this kind of curious documentary and documentarian, Andrew Jurecki. And I've also invited a friend of

mine, Roberta Glass of the True Crime Report, to sit in. She's very familiar with a lot of these

kind of cases, a lot of the kind of innocence fraud or innocence ambiguity type cases.

And Jason reached out to me. He's been writing about this subject so I'm

to put links to his substack very popular substack title of his children of Job where faith in

hubris meet so I'll put a link to that it's it's children of Job dot substack.com but But Jason and I, we've done past shows.

We've done, covered a number of his books, not some of the recent ones, but the older

ones, one is seen and not seen.

Confessions of a movie Autist, another was a self-made Messiah unveiled about

guru John D. Reuter, and there's been some updates about him.

I think he's in jail after we did our show

about him. Then another book that we covered was 16 maps of hell, the unraveling of Hollywood

superculture with a rough draft of the exit. And then another is vice of kings, how socialism, occultism,

and the sexual revolution engineered a culture of abuse.

And then, let's see, we also did Prisoner of Infinity, so it's five UFO social engineering and the psychology of fragmentation.

But again, we're going to kind of talk about these cases.

I've seen capturing the freedment, but I saw it before kind of the idea of some of these

not very forth uh forthcoming documentaries came to my mind so i watched it went back in the day but

uh you can see it if you're watching this on x or rumble or rockvin the title of the documentary is capturing the freedman's who do you believe and this was a very well received jason writes about it won a bunch of awards and was very popular he kind of launched his career if i remember correctly but again also roberta glass of True Crime Report. You guys should check it out.

We've done tons of shows over 35 shows on so many different subjects that do overlap with this topic.

So I'm delighted to have her.

But Jason and Roberta, welcome to the show.

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