The Age of Crisis: COVID-19 & our Post-Pandemic Future | Adam Tooze
Hidden Forces
Demetri Kofinas
4.8 • 1.6K Ratings
🗓️ 13 September 2021
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
In Episode 208 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with Adam Tooze, professor of history and the director of the European Institute at Columbia University. He's also a prolific public commentator and author of several prize-winning books including his latest, "Shutdown: How COVID Shook the World Economy."
In the first part of their conversation, Demetri and Adam work their way through the chain of events that occurred between the outbreak of SARS-CoV-2 in January 2020 and the inauguration of Joe Biden in January 2021. Effectively the period that we now consider to be the first full year of the pandemic. In Adam's own words we "wrestle with power and knowledge in time," in an effort to understand the nature of the forces that this pandemic has unleashed, their constancy, and their implications for shaping not only our children's futures but more immediately, ours as well.
In the second part of our conversation, Demetri and Adam begin to dissect specific aspects and features of the modern world whether those be the fragility of our debt-financed economy and the neoliberal order, the threat, perceived or imagined to the United States, its citizenry, and its power structure posed by the rise of a potential peer-competitor in the form China, as well as the future of warfare and how to think about the proper relationship between the state and the private sector in the context of the types of polycrises of the Anthropocene that Adam and Demetri discuss during this conversation. It's a phenomenal episode that you will not want to miss.
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Episode Recorded on 09/09/2021
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| 0:00.0 | What's up everybody? My name is Dmitrik Afinas and you're listening to Hidden Forces, |
| 0:06.0 | a podcast that inspires investors, entrepreneurs and everyday citizens to challenge consensus narratives, |
| 0:13.0 | and to learn how to think critically about the systems of power shaping our world. |
| 0:18.0 | My guest in this week's episode is Adam Toos. Adam is a professor of history and the director of the European Institute at Columbia University. |
| 0:27.0 | He's also a prolific public commentator and author of several prize-winning books and his latest shutdown, |
| 0:34.0 | he's most certainly going to make it onto that list as well. |
| 0:38.0 | In the first part of our conversation, Adam and I work our way through the chain of events that occurred |
| 0:43.0 | between the outbreak of SARS-CoV-2 in January 2020 and the inauguration of Joe Biden, |
| 0:49.0 | effectively the period that we now consider to be the first full year of the pandemic. |
| 0:55.0 | In Adam's own words, we wrestle with power and knowledge in time. |
| 0:59.0 | In an effort to understand the nature of the forces that this pandemic has unleashed, |
| 1:04.0 | their constancy and the implications of those forces for shaping not only our children's futures, |
| 1:09.0 | but more immediately ours as well. |
| 1:12.0 | In the second hour of our conversation, we have an opportunity to begin to dissect |
| 1:16.0 | specific aspects and features of the modern world, |
| 1:20.0 | whether those be the fragility of the neoliberal order, |
| 1:23.0 | the threat perceived or imagined to the United States, its citizenry, |
| 1:28.0 | and its power structure posed by the rise of China as well as the future of warfare |
| 1:33.0 | and how to think about the proper relationship between the state and the private sector |
| 1:38.0 | in the context of the types of poly crises of the Anthropocene that Adam and I discussed during this conversation. |
| 1:44.0 | It's a phenomenal episode, as you would expect. |
| 1:48.0 | So without any further ado, please enjoy this week's conversation with my guest, |
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