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Hello, everybody.

It's Deborah Roberts here.

And today on 2020, The After Show, I get a chance to sit down with somebody many of you have seen on lots of our episodes.

Matt Murphy, who helps shed light on the complex search for justice in these true crime stories that we report on.

Matt has spent decades facing down people accused of heinous crimes.

He spent 26 years as a prosecutor in Orange County, California, and 17 of those years, he tried homicide cases, which makes him perfect to help us understand a lot of our stories.

Well, Matt now, of course, is using that legal expertise with us here on 2020, where he is an ABC News legal contributor.

Hello, Matt.

Happy to be here. Yeah, glad to see you. You know, it occurs to me that, of course, I've talked to you in many of our episodes or included you in

many of our episodes, but we don't get a chance to talk to each other that often face to face.

No, it's funny. The way 2020 works, you know, there's a ton of interaction between different people

and then some

you'll see in passing. So this is fun for me. So let's start with you as a prosecutor.

Before we get into how we work together here on 2020, you became a prosecutor specializing in

homicide cases, but I know that you have a rich history of all kinds of things. You worked with kids who have

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