The Adventures of Intel in Trumpland
War on the Rocks
War on the Rocks
4.6 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 22 November 2017
⏱️ 55 minutes
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Summary
Weeks before Donald Trump took office, Ryan convened a group of professionals from in and around the intelligence community to talk about the incoming president's approach to intel ("He's Just Not That Into You: Trump, Intel, and the American Presidency"). In today's episode, Ryan brought the same group of people together (minus one). Tune in to hear Carmen Medina, Mark Stout, and Mark Zaid chat (over drinks, of course) about how the president has done so far.
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| 0:00.0 | You are listening to the War on the Rocks podcast on Strategy, Defense and Foreign Affairs. |
| 0:12.0 | My name is Ryan Evans. |
| 0:13.0 | I'm the Editor-and-Chief of War in the Rocks. |
| 0:15.0 | In this episode, we talk about Intelligence in Trumland. |
| 0:18.0 | I'll let our guests introduce themselves. |
| 0:20.0 | I'm Mark Stout. |
| 0:21.0 | I'm a former Intelligence Officer at the U.S. State Department and the CIA. |
| 0:24.0 | Later I was historian at the International Spy Museum and now I run graduate programs for Johns Hopkins in |
| 0:29.1 | Washington in Security Studies and Intelligence. |
| 0:31.8 | Hi I'm Carmen Medina. |
| 0:34.6 | I spent 32 years at CIA as an analyst and a manager of analysts. |
| 0:38.8 | It was also a heretic at CIA and now I write about analysis and about how to be a rebel at work. |
| 0:45.0 | I'm Mark Zaid. I'm a national security attorney here in DC for the last 25 years who |
| 0:52.0 | primarily represents individuals within the intelligence community. |
| 1:11.0 | You know, obviously we talked very early |
| 1:14.3 | this year about some of these issues if you had to score how Trump is with using |
| 1:20.7 | intelligence and maintaining a healthy relationship with the intelligence community, how would you score it? |
| 1:24.8 | Carmen, how about we start with you? |
| 1:26.8 | Wow, well I think the score would be different on any particular day. |
| 1:31.6 | I mean, after or during his trip to Asia, |
| 1:35.4 | I would have scored, as he likes to call it Indo-Pacific. |
| 1:39.0 | I would score it like a one. |
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