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Gender: A Wider Lens

"The Adulting of Children," with Rep. Shawn Thierry

Gender: A Wider Lens

Sasha Ayad and Stella O'Malley

Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Mental Health

4.6961 Ratings

🗓️ 17 January 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, former Democratic State Representative Shawn Thierry reflects on her role in advocating for Texas Senate Bill 14 (TX SB14), which raised the minimum age for gender transition procedures to 18. Despite sharing concerns about the medicalization of minors with her fellow Democratic colleagues, Shawn was warned that her seat would be at stake for going on the record with her position and voting in favor of the bill. Her steadfast commitment to integrity led her to take a stand, even though it ultimately cost her re-election. Shawn discusses the two-year research process that shaped her decision, the personal risks she faced, and the pressures she encountered from within her own party. Throughout the conversation, she highlights the importance of principled leadership, unwavering dedication to doing what is right, and standing firm in the face of political and social pressures.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Stella O'Malley, a psychotherapist in Ireland.

0:04.0

And I'm Sasha Ayyad, an adolescent therapist in the United States.

0:08.0

And this is Gender, a Wider Lens, a podcast dedicated to the shifting concepts around gender in our contemporary culture.

0:16.0

Through in-depth interviews, personal stories, and psychological exploration, we seek to open up the discourse

0:22.7

around this hot button issue.

0:25.1

Join us as we look at gender from a wider lens.

0:31.7

Hi, Stella.

0:33.7

How's it going, Sasha?

0:35.7

It's going well.

0:36.7

I am really glad that we got to talk to Sean Theory today.

0:41.6

She's a representative from the state of Texas, where I spent many, many of my years.

0:46.8

And she just has a very refreshing perspective on a lot of topics.

0:52.4

And so we're very excited to share this episode with listeners today.

0:56.5

Yeah, I think Sean theory is an inspiration. You know, we we kind of very often have a lot of

1:03.3

academics talking very highfalutal language, an awful lot of high concepts. And it can be easy for

1:10.2

people to feel a little bit lost among the weeds and

1:12.5

that they daren't speak up. But Sean Theory, who is a very successful woman, who was named,

1:18.1

you know, one of Houston's top 30 most influential women. So she's extraordinary. She's

1:23.4

representative. But also she talks in straight, straight, easy to understand language.

1:29.5

She's very powerful speaker, but she says it straight.

1:32.2

She doesn't mess around with complicated language.

1:34.6

And I think we could learn from her.

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