This is a Headgun Podcast.

Hello and welcome to Factually, I'm Adam Connover, thank you so much for joining

me once again as I talk to an incredible expert about all the amazing things that they know

that I don't know and that you might not know. Both of our minds are going to get blown together

and oh my god we're going to have so much fun doing it and today we're going to continue

our discussion of artificial intelligence. Pretty much everyone agrees that artificial intelligence

is dangerous but no one can agree on precisely how even the companies that are developing AI

claim weirdly enough to be terrified about the future of their own technology and recently

we've been treated to news story after news story about the people who run those companies

testifying before legislators or meeting with world leaders begging for them to regulate them

but you know shouldn't we be suspicious of that? After all when the CEO of a capitalist company

is begging for the government to regulate them it stands to reason that they might be doing so

because you know they think they can extract specific laws that will help their bottom line

and hurt their competitors and at the same time you know who's been excluded from those meetings

scholars and scientists who actually study the real harms that AI could have not to mention

the people who have already suffered those harms. Forget a super powerful AI taking over the world

past guests Emily Bender and Timney Gebru have raised the alarm about real world harms like algorithmic

bias or the spread of misinformation and those harms barely come up when the tech CEOs are hanging

out with the presidents and prime ministers. The point is when someone who runs a billion dollar

company tells you what they think you should be scared of you should be a little bit skeptical

and instead you should look to the real experts the scholars and scientists to find out what their

concerns are and that is what we are going to continue to do on this show. Now I want to be clear

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