The Achilles Trap: Saddam Hussein, the C.I.A., and the Origins of America's Invasion of Iraq:
Stand Up! with Pete Dominick
Pete Dominick
4.8 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 28 February 2024
⏱️ 52 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hey friends welcome to a very special episode of Stand Up where I just get to my |
| 0:06.8 | interview with my very special guest Steve Cole whose new book is so important |
| 0:12.2 | and whose work has won Pulitzer Prizes and the respect of millions |
| 0:16.6 | of readers and National Security Forum Policy Communities, the Intelligence Agency Communities, and so many more folks like us, journalists |
| 0:26.6 | who cover all of it. |
| 0:27.8 | He's the author of Ghost Wars, which was a really important book about the origins of the Taliban, the Mujahideen, |
| 0:34.5 | Osama Laden, so important our war in Afghanistan. |
| 0:38.2 | He's a professor and Dean Emeritus of Columbia Journalism School. |
| 0:42.2 | He's a big muckity muck in journalism circles. |
| 0:44.8 | From 2007 to 2013 he was president of the New America Foundation, which is a public policy |
| 0:49.8 | institute in DC and he's also a staff writer for The New Yorker. |
| 0:54.0 | Previously worked for 20 years at the Washington Post, where he received Pields of Prize for |
| 0:58.0 | explanatory journalism in 1990, and the author of nine books, are all so important including one called |
| 1:05.9 | the Bidlodden's private empire which is about Exxon and Directorate S which is |
| 1:10.9 | about the CIA and so much more. This book is called the Achilles |
| 1:15.4 | Trapp Saddam Hussein, the CIA, and the origins of America's invasion of Iraq. |
| 1:20.9 | I've read the almost 500 pages for this interview. I really wanted to be prepared and as I edited it I think I impress myself. I think this is probably one of the better interviews I've ever done on a book like this certainly and I'm guessing it's one of the best interviews that Steve Cole does on this book. |
| 1:36.1 | I know he enjoyed it. I certainly did. |
| 1:38.0 | Another one of my favorite journalists Spencer Ackerman wrote a review saying, |
| 1:42.6 | Steve Cole's book, relying as it often does on newly translated Iraqi documents, |
| 1:47.2 | couldn't have been written back when it might have hindered a war, |
| 1:49.9 | but it succeeds because Steve Cole's willingness to re-examine the mutually reinforcing |
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