The Abortion Wars, Part 2: The Illinois Option

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🗓️ 18 April 2019

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Four states have passed laws this year that effectively ban abortion after six weeks of pregnancy, and others, including Missouri, are expected to follow suit. Some Missourians are crossing the state line to Illinois, where abortion access is protected. We spent a day at a clinic in Illinois with three women who were getting abortions. Guests: Sabrina Tavernise, a national correspondent for The New York Times, and Lynsea Garrison, a producer for “The Daily.” For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. This episode includes disturbing language. Background coverage:Bans on abortion in the very early weeks of pregnancy — after a fetal heartbeat is detected — used to be rare. But in the past three months, four states have passed so-called heartbeat bills, and 11 others are considering them. In 1973, the Supreme Court ruled — with little controversy — that women had a constitutional right to abortion. How did the decision give way to today’s deep political divide? Listen to a series from “The Daily” on Roe v. Wade.

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0:00.0	What did you do in the clinic?
0:03.1	What I did was counsel people who called and then we would talk to these people on the
0:11.3	phone.
0:12.3	We had explained all that to them.
0:14.6	Here it was a state of the sewer where you could not get an abortion, but there was
0:18.4	a state of New York where you could go by an airplane.
0:22.0	You can go to a good clinic there with obstetricians, well trained obstetricians.
0:28.0	You can go there in the morning and you can come back at night, just that kind of thing.
0:34.7	People just didn't know about that at all.
0:37.7	What were some of the stories that they told you?
0:41.1	You were talking to them a lot.
0:42.9	My mother will kill me.
0:45.7	I can't go down to that line of people because my sister's down there protesting against
0:51.2	abortion.
0:53.7	Believe me, this girl who said, oh, I could do that is the girl who next week will be walking
1:00.4	in that line.
1:03.3	You just can't imagine how it used to be until it hits you.
1:10.2	It's always, you know, you shouldn't do that.
1:13.8	But when it hits your family, all of a sudden you wake up and you realize that sometimes
1:21.8	there are no other answers.
1:27.0	That's not going to solve your problems.
1:30.0	How about it guys?
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