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The Daily

The Abortion Wars, Part 1: The Last Clinic in Missouri

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.3107.7K Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2019

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

When Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s ascendance to the Supreme Court threw the future of abortion rights into question, states scrambled to enact new laws. Two neighboring states in the Midwest are moving in opposite directions: Missouri is taking action to end abortion access, while Illinois is trying to preserve it. In a two-part series, we explore what those changes look like on the ground. Guests: Sabrina Tavernise, a national correspondent for The New York Times, and Lynsea Garrison, a producer for “The Daily.” For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Background coverage:Anti-abortion activists are pursuing what they see as their best chance in years to restrict abortion access with a Supreme Court they believe to be in their favor.Listen to “Roe v. Wade,” a series from “The Daily” about how abortion became one of the most divisive political issues in the United States.

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0:00.0

So, why don't I start if you can introduce yourself and say your name?

0:06.7

Okay, well my name's Vivian Swick and I'm 101 years old and I came to this issue quite

0:14.0

a long time ago.

0:16.6

Did you know about abortion?

0:18.8

No, I'd heard about it but I really didn't know much about it.

0:22.9

I didn't start really working for it until about the early 60s just a time that Governor

0:32.6

Rockefeller in New York signed the bills and abortion available to everybody, not in

0:39.9

Missouri, but in New York's day.

0:42.8

So we were just delighted that there was actually a place where you could get an abortion

0:48.7

here in America.

0:49.7

You know, before that, if you were a rich woman, you could go to Europe, but if you were

0:54.1

a poor woman, you couldn't.

0:56.4

So we were sending people to New York.

0:59.6

It was pretty underground.

1:03.4

Does that seem when you look back on it now?

1:05.8

Does that seem like an earlier time that just feels very old fashioned and distant?

1:11.2

I'm afraid not.

1:12.6

From the New York Times, I'm Sabrina Tavernese.

1:25.6

This is the Daily.

1:28.0

Today.

1:29.7

When Brett Kavanaugh was nominated to the Supreme Court last summer, the future of abortion

1:33.6

was thrown into town.

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