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Young Heretics

The Abolition of Sex: IVF, Designer Babies, and Goethe's Faust

Young Heretics

Spencer Klavan

Society & Culture, Education

4.94.5K Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2024

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

Before C.S. Lewis, before George Orwell, there was Goethe: in Faust Part II, the magician's servant Wagner concocts a literal test tube baby--a "homunculus" or "little man" made without any sexual intercourse at all. This picture of humanity cut off from its natural origins is frighteningly familiar, and it leads to a final word on science, magic, and the coming age of genetic screenings. Where do we go from here? Only the past can help guide us into the future.

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0:00.0

So when I started talking about Faust and science and technology and magic, I definitely did not think I was going to end up doing an episode about IVF and designer babies. But here we go, we're doing it live. One of the questions I get a lot about this show is how much I prepare like I might just talking like off the cuff off the top of my head or am I writing stuff out or what?

0:36.7

And I don't write scripts out.

0:38.3

I haven't done that since the very beginning really of the show, but I do prepare a lot. I mean obviously there's a lot of reading that goes into the show and I make sure I have all the

0:48.3

Passages ready that I want to talk about and the dates of things and all that kind of written down in my notes.

0:56.0

But, but part of the magic, not just of doing this show, but of reading great literature more generally is that one of the things that makes a book

1:08.0

truly great, truly enduring, is that when you open it,

1:12.0

no matter how many times you've read it, no matter how familiar you think you are

1:15.2

with the historical context, no matter what else you know about the period and the work and all

1:21.1

of that, you never know what it's going to say to you, what it's going to reveal to you.

1:28.0

That's why great literature, truly great literature, is an adventure.

1:32.0

It's because by looking so deeply into the heart of

1:36.8

someone human experience, a great artist can actually capture more than he understands. That's why Plato was on to something

1:46.5

when he suggested that great singers like Ion are really conduits of something else of a divine insight or a divine

1:56.0

knowledge if there anything at all I mean Plato was obviously very skeptical of art and

2:01.5

wary of its powers but not because he didn't take it seriously it's

2:05.5

because he thought most people didn't take it seriously enough and that art at

2:10.8

its best but also at its most potent, is like this opening for pure divine light to shine through.

2:19.6

And divine light, divine wisdom, divine knowledge is not like human knowledge.

2:23.7

We know things in this specific propositional way

2:28.0

because we're bounded in time.

2:29.7

And so we have to make these either-or statements and think in propositional logic. But when we do that,

2:36.1

what we're really doing is unfolding a unitary, pure divine wisdom. And sometimes when an artist is really inspired that is breathed into by God and by heaven,

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