The Abercrombie Guys: 8. The Fallout
World of Secrets
BBC
4.7 • 765 Ratings
🗓️ 21 November 2023
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Summary
A lawsuit is filed revealing new allegations, but what did Abercrombie and Fitch know? An anonymous source speaks about Mike Jeffries' time at A&F, but the company won't answer all our questions.
Meanwhile, another staffer recalls his time working for The Abercrombie Guys: "I only worked for them for a year, and I hated every second of it."
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This podcast refers to sexual abuse and contains interviews that some listeners may find upsetting, as well as some occasional strong language. If you've been affected by any of the issues in this series, please contact support organisations in your own country. For a list of organisations in the UK that can provide support for survivors of sexual abuse, go to bbc.co.uk/actionline.
World of Secrets: Season 1 - The Abercrombie Guys is presented and investigated by Rianna Croxford Series Producers: Ruth Evans and Alys Harte Senior Producer: Emma Close Development Producer: Hannah Livingston Investigation Editor: Ed Campbell Podcast Editor: Richard Fenton-Smith Executive Editor: Emma Rippon Studio Engineers: Neil Churchill, Andy Fell, Gareth Jones, and Ali Rezakhani Production Coordinators: Debbie Richford and Sophie Hill Commissioning Editor: Dylan Haskins Commissioning Executive: Louise Kattenhorn Assistant Commissioner: Natasha Johansson
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| 0:00.0 | My name is Annie Matt Manus and my name is Nick Grimshaw. How long have we known each other babe? |
| 0:05.1 | Probably 20 years now and in that time we've always worked in and around music right? |
| 0:10.6 | We have. So it kind of makes sense that we do a podcast better. |
| 0:13.4 | It sounds like he's been 20 years in the making. It's not a avatar for podcasts, basically, |
| 0:17.6 | but it is good. So we put the world to rights with regards to music. |
| 0:21.5 | It's all the stuff that you'd want to chat to your mate about over a pint. |
| 0:25.0 | Sidetracked with us, Annie and Nick, |
| 0:27.0 | listen on BBC Sounds. |
| 0:31.0 | BBC Sounds, |
| 0:32.0 | Music Radio Podcasts. BBC Sounds, music radio podcasts. |
| 0:35.0 | Hi, thanks for downloading World of Secrets. |
| 0:38.0 | I'm Riana Croxford, and before we start, |
| 0:41.0 | I want to let you know that this episode contains references to sex. |
| 0:50.0 | Since we first told you about the Abercrombie guys a lot has happened |
| 0:55.0 | We start with breaking news this hour with a special BBC news investigation the former CEO of the global fashion brand Abercrombie and Fitch and his |
| 1:04.3 | British partner face allegations of exploitation from men recruited for sex events |
| 1:10.0 | they hosted around the world. They say that these parties happened in big major cities over a time period |
| 1:16.1 | between 2009 and 2015. Now you mentioned that the investigation revealed an |
| 1:20.9 | organized network used a middle man to recruit young adult men for the events |
| 1:26.2 | with Mr Jeffries and his partner Matthew Smith with some alleging that they were abused. |
| 1:32.3 | The story I'd been investigating for more than two years made headlines around the world. |
| 1:38.0 | Now the BBC is saying that they completed extensive fact checking, talking with dozens of other sources to corroborate |
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