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World Of Secrets

The Abercrombie Guys: 6. Inside the Operation

World Of Secrets

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary

4.7765 Ratings

🗓️ 2 October 2023

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Do you know how much money I was getting paid?"

A former assistant who travelled with The Abercrombie Guys agrees to talk: "They were trying to act so perfect,” he says - what could they have been hiding?”

Have you got a story to tell? Email [email protected]. Let us know what you think of the season using the hashtag #WorldofSecrets

This podcast refers to sexual abuse and contains interviews that some listeners may find upsetting, as well as some occasional strong language. If you've been affected by any of the issues in this series, please contact support organisations in your own country. For a list of organisations in the UK that can provide support for survivors of sexual abuse, go to bbc.co.uk/actionline.

World of Secrets: Season 1 - The Abercrombie Guys is presented and investigated by Rianna Croxford Series Producers: Ruth Evans and Alys Harte Senior Producer: Emma Close Development Producer: Hannah Livingston Investigation Editor: Ed Campbell Podcast Editor: Richard Fenton-Smith Executive Editor: Emma Rippon Studio Engineers: Neil Churchill, Andy Fell, Gareth Jones, and Ali Rezakhani Production Coordinators: Debbie Richford and Sophie Hill Commissioning Editor: Dylan Haskins Commissioning Executive: Louise Kattenhorn Assistant Commissioner: Natasha Johansson This podcast is made in collaboration with BBC Panorama. If you are in the UK, you can watch Panorama: The Abercrombie Guys: The Dark Side of Cool on BBC iPlayer now, or on BBC Select if you are in the in the US. World of Secrets: Season 1 - The Abercrombie Guys is a BBC Long Form Audio production for BBC Radio 5 Live and BBC Sounds.

Transcript

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0:00.0

How did the richest people on the planet make their fortunes?

0:05.0

I'm Simon Jack and I'm Zing Singh.

0:08.0

Join us for good bad billionaire.

0:09.0

Each episode we pick a billionaire and we find out how they made their money like the comedian Jerry

0:14.5

Seinfeld the financier George Soros the golf star Tiger Woods then Simon and I

0:19.6

have a decision to make do we think they are good, bad or just another billionaire?

0:24.3

Good bad billionaire. Listen on BBC Sounds.

0:27.8

BBC Sounds, music radio podcasts.

0:34.0

Hi, thanks for listening to World of Secrets.

0:37.0

I'm Riana Croxford, and before we start, I wanted to let you know that this episode

0:41.4

contains very strong language.

0:45.2

Really? Take two, Mark. Ready? It's been almost two and a half years since my first phone call with

1:01.1

Barrett Paul. The call that sparked this entire investigation.

1:06.6

When we hung up, I had no idea where this was going to lead, but I've slowly been connecting the dots.

1:14.2

The scale of this operation is bigger than I think I understand still.

1:19.0

It's part of a well-oiled machine.

1:20.9

Mike Jeffries is at the center of as a pyramid which means that there's a

1:26.7

base that's holding it up. It was Barrett who first led me to on earth a paper

1:32.3

trail of evidence of what appears to be a slick

1:35.3

operation run for the Abercrombie guys.

1:38.3

It says, you know, Barrett clearly addressed to me.

1:41.5

Thanks for being able to come for the event on Saturday, May 7th in the Hamptons.

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