This is the John Fugel-Sang Podcast.

The last January 6 hearing of the summer and the final prime someone featuring two witnesses who were both Republicans ex-members

of the Trump administration itself showing us yet another angle of a deeply weak man and his obedience simpleton followers throwing

a violent tantrum because voters didn't want them there any more.

Lots of revelations, every single Republican in the White House wanted this man to stop.

They're not all rhinos. I am so pleased to welcome Corey Brechniter back to the show.

We really thought we'd be doing this about an hour earlier.

Corey's professor with a PhD in politics from Princeton,

a law degree from Stanford, and he enriches the lives of students in the Polyside

department at Brown.

You've read his stuff in the New York Times in time,

and get his book, The in the office a guide to the

Constitution for future presidents. Professor Brett Schneider, I'm sorry we're

keeping you up so late let's dive into it. What were your thoughts?

Wow John I mean I'm just trying to sort of process and internalize all that we saw the, you know, the,

he continues to shock us as much as we know to expect that there is really

nothing that we could put past him to see the details of what he was doing the way

that he was resisting basically everybody except for Rudy Giuliani and I suspect we're going to hear more about other people he has been in contact with that were closer to those on the ground, possibly

Roger Stone for instance.

You know, this is just somebody who was clearly aiding and abetting an insurrection and when he was silent they knew what it meant and

he was communicating with the people on the ground to see all of that to see even in the end the next day at the end of the riot the

the attempt in the face of all the pressure from his family and staff to not send them home to not stop to continue to fight and

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