Your enemy is well trained, well equipped in battle heart.

There is not a liberal America and a conservative America,

there is the United States of America.

Good night and good luck.

I'm honored to have Ken Burns

join us today on the Lincoln Project Podcast.

You all know Ken Burns. He is one of the most famous

documentary producers of our era, the Civil War, baseball, prohibition, the war,

cancer, the wet, I mean, he has been involved in telling America's story

through documentary filmmaking for decades and is a man who has watched and studied and and internalized this

great journey our country's been on throughout its history and the and the strange journey it's been on in

our lifetimes and again Ken I'm so grateful for you coming on the show today

thank you so much. And I wanted to

start out with the story that has been making some news lately. You gave a

commencement address at Brandeis University and as as you said, and I thought very rightly,

you have tried to always have a posture in your work

and you're speaking of neutrality, of taking in the big sweep of history in this

country. But in that speech you leveled some pretty intense criticisms of the

moment we're in and the way our country is responding or not responding to the constitutional

crisis that Donald Trump poses for the nation and our future. Talk to us a

little bit about how you came to this moment and about the Brandeis speech because I and I recommend folks

we'll put in the show notes to link it it is a wonderful examination of America but

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