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Matter of Opinion

The 46th: Who Will Replace Trump in the G.O.P.’s Heart?

Matter of Opinion

New York Times Opinion

Society & Culture, Ross Douthat, News, New York Times, Journalism

4.27.2K Ratings

🗓️ 11 December 2020

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

As part of our series “The 46th,” the hosts and guests on “The Argument” are debating what America under a Biden administration might and should look like. This week, Ross Douthat is joined first by Jane Coaston, formerly of “The Weeds,” and future host of “The Argument.” Together they discuss the reasons for widespread theories of voter fraud among the Republican electorate and what led to such a moment. Then, the senior elections analyst of Real Clear Politics, Sean Trende, joins the pair to discuss the future of Trumpism and whether anybody else can capture the Republican Party quite like Donald Trump. And finally, Jane recommends building your character and your calf muscles. For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument.

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0:00.0

I'm Ross Douthet, and this is the argument.

0:03.0

It's been a little while since I've said that intro.

0:09.0

I'm back from my brief time away from the show and oh, how I've missed all of you.

0:18.9

In my absence, Michelle and the redoubtable Aaron Reddica have been taking a closer look

0:23.6

at what President-elect Biden might accomplish in his first 100 days.

0:28.0

It's a series we've been calling the 46th.

0:31.1

Today, we're going to continue that series with a look across the aisle and argue about

0:35.7

what might happen with Republicans in the Biden era.

0:39.3

Later in the episode, Sean Trendy of Real Clear Politics will join me to talk about where

0:43.6

Trumpism came from and whether it might outlast Trump himself, if any of us outlast Trump.

0:50.0

But first, I'm joined by my new colleague, Jane Kostin.

0:53.8

Hey, Jane.

0:54.8

Hey, Ross.

0:55.8

Thanks for having me.

0:56.8

Jane just came to the times from Vox, where among other things she co-hosted their policy

1:02.1

podcast, The Weeds.

1:04.1

And sometime in the new year, she'll be joining this show, not just as a guest, but as a host.

1:09.7

So we figured we should have her odd now, so she doesn't feel incredibly intimidated when

1:13.6

the time comes to take the mic from me.

1:17.2

Do you feel intimidated now, Jane?

1:19.4

Mildly?

1:20.7

Somewhat?

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