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I'm about to scratch right now when Matthew Barry comes up in one second first our friends from projam

all right on the phone line we have been doing podcasts together I look this up can you guess the

date of our first podcast together Michael Matthew Barry can you say your name Matthew Barry 2008

yeah what month uh we didn't do a fantasy football one I would I would have been in the spring

I think right yeah it was maybe it was April I don't know why we would have done a podcast in

April what was it like baseball fantasy baseball must have been fantasy baseball God remember when

people played fantasy baseball so much I it's been a while since I have it's been a couple of years

since I actually have yeah you you really carved out something magical for yourself you just

decided a few years ago football is all that matters and that's all I'm concentrated my effort

side I thought it was brilliant at that I was a big stroke by you well it's it's not that football baseball

doesn't matter that fantasy baseball isn't fine it just became a I have five kids yeah and

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