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10% Happier with Dan Harris

That Feeling of “Always-Behind and Never-Enough”—Here’s the Antidote | Ellen Hendriksen

10% Happier with Dan Harris

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Dan Harris, Health & Fitness, Mindfulness, Dharma, Mental Health, Meditation

4.612.2K Ratings

🗓️ 19 May 2025

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

How to beat perfectionism without lowering your standards.

 

Dr. Ellen Hendriksen is a clinical psychologist who will help you calm your anxiety and be your authentic self. She serves on the faculty at Boston University's Center for Anxiety and Related Disorders (CARD) and is the author of HOW TO BE ENOUGH: Self-Acceptance for Self-Critics and Perfectionists and HOW TO BE YOURSELF: Quiet Your Inner Critic and Rise Above Social Anxiety.

 

In this episode we talk about:

  • The relationship between perfectionism and anxiety
  • The definition of perfectionism–and why the word is actually a misnomer
  • Dr. Hendriksen’s own struggles with perfectionism, and how they manifested physically
  • The difference between healthy perfectionism and unhealthy perfectionism
  • Changing your relationship with your inner critic 
  • Shifting from rigid rules to flexibility
  • Keeping high standards while making room for mistakes
  • Overcoming procrastination
  • Navigating social comparison
  • And much more

 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

It's the 10% Happier Podcast. I'm Dan Harris.

0:08.0

Hello everybody. How we doing? Perfectionism can really be the ultimate head fuck. You know it's driving you crazy, that feeling of always behind and never enough, but you tell yourself that you need this relentless self-criticism in order to get anything done, in order to succeed, that anything less would be an unacceptable,

0:39.1

even dangerous lowering of your standards.

0:42.5

All lies, according to my guest today, Ellen Hendrickson, who's a clinical psychologist

0:47.6

at Boston University's Center for Anxiety and Related Disorders.

0:52.1

She's got a new book.

0:53.1

It's called How to Be Enough, Self- Acceptance for Self Critics and Perfectionists.

0:57.0

This is Ellen's second appearance on the pod.

1:01.0

She actually came on several years ago to discuss her first book was about social anxiety.

1:05.0

It was called How to Be Yourself.

1:07.0

I'll drop a link to that in the show notes if you want to go check it out.

1:10.0

Anyway, in this conversation,

1:11.3

we talk about the relationship between perfectionism and anxiety, the definition of perfectionism,

1:16.5

and why that word may actually be a misnomer. We talk about Dr. Hendrickson's own struggles with

1:22.0

perfectionism and how those struggles manifested physically. The difference between healthy

1:27.1

perfectionism and unhealthy

1:28.4

perfectionism, changing your relationship with your inner critic, shifting from rigid, self-inflicted

1:34.1

rules to flexibility, how to keep high standards while making room for mistakes, overcoming

1:40.6

procrastination, navigating social comparison, and much more. Before we dive in and on a very

1:46.5

related note, I do want to tell you about something I'm doing over on Dan Harris.com all week,

1:51.6

starting today at 4 p.m. Eastern, I'm going to be doing live guided meditations where I focus

1:56.5

on specific forms of meditation that were designed by the Buddha as an antidote to anxiety.

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