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Head to octopusevo Milli Band and Jeff Lloyd.

Well, hello Ed.

Well, this is not Jeff Lloyd.

This is the wonderful Melissa Ben.

Jeff is off having a 50th birthday trip with his wife Sarah and I am absolutely

delighted that we have friend of the podcast, friend of mine, long-time friend of my family,

Melissa Ben. Rachel described you as a supply teacher. I don't think that, I mean, obviously I love supply teachers, but I don't see you as necessarily that. I see, I see us as sort of being incredibly lucky to have you.

Oh well, Ed, you certainly know how to make a girl feel good.

I mean, I am slightly feeling I'm not Jeff Lloyd

Syndrome, but I'm also wondering, is he still celebrating his 50th birthday because the last of your

podcast he just celebrated it then as well.

Yeah it's a long it's a long birthday that he's having he's feeling I'm not Melissa Ben syndrome no doubt

listening listening listening to us but it is absolutely great to have you and we should

say full disclosure that we have known each other for a long time.

I'm actually true wondering when did we first meet do you think?

Okay I think we first met and I hate to say I probably don't remember it as well as I should. You worked in my dad's basement.

My dad...

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