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Anderson Cooper 360

Texas Official:  It was “the wrong decision, period” to not take on the shooter immediately

Anderson Cooper 360

CNN

News

3.73.8K Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2022

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

The director of the Texas Department of Public Safety criticized police for not immediately breaching the classroom door and confronting the gunman at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas. During the time police waited in the hallway, children inside classrooms 111 and 112 repeatedly called 911 and pleaded for help. Former FBI deputy director and CNN Senior Law Enforcement Analyst Andrew McCabe weighs in on the new details about the incident commander’s "thought process" during the police response. Fourth grade survivors are now speaking out about what happened that day. AC360 talks to Dr. Melissa Brymer about the ways people can help those impacted by this tragedy. She’s an expert on Child Traumatic Stress and helped implement services for survivors and families after the Sandy Hook shooting in Newtown, Connecticut in 2012.Guests: Andrew McCabe, Dr. Melissa Brymer.Airdate: May 27, 2022 To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Good evening, Anderson is off tonight.

0:04.5

I want to begin by reading you a line from the active shooter training manual for the

0:08.9

state of Texas.

0:10.2

It reads, quote, officers first priority is to move in and confront the attacker.

0:17.5

That's today, these 21 crosses speak louder than words can.

0:22.4

That on Tuesday, at Rob Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, this first priority for every

0:28.6

single law enforcement officer in the state did not come first.

0:34.9

The awful truth which was confirmed today is that police officers waited to storm a

0:39.6

classroom while children were hiding inside and calling 911 for help that would not come

0:47.2

for as long as an hour.

0:50.0

Now we often hear police officers talk about split second decisions.

0:54.4

This time the decision to go into a classroom and confront the shooter took 3,600 of

1:02.7

those seconds, a full hour.

1:05.9

I have the benefit of hindsight where I'm sitting now that of course it was not the right

1:11.3

decision, it was the wrong decision.

1:12.6

Period.

1:13.6

There's no excuse for that.

1:15.8

But again, I wasn't there, but I'm just telling you from what we know that we believe

1:20.1

there should have been an entry of that as soon as you can.

1:23.2

Next even McGraw, director of the Texas Department of Public Safety with the bottom line.

1:28.2

A far different one from what we've been hearing, frankly, all week long.

1:32.3

Also apparently far different from what the governor had been told.

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