Terry Carnation's Dark Air and Richard Hatem

Astonishing Legends

Scott Philbrook

History, Society & Culture

4.6 • 9.8K Ratings

🗓️ 27 March 2021

⏱️ 90 minutes

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We have a very special guest joining us tonight, metaphysical "astralnaut," philosopher of the liminal, "Pope of the Paranormal," and host of the AM Radio talk show Dark Air, Terry Carnation. Terry first got his start in the paranormal radio genre when unexpectedly thrust into taking over for another show. While working as a late-night rock n' roll Disc Jockey for an FM station in Buffalo, NY, in 1992, Reginald Wilcox, the host of the paranormal call-in show that aired after Terry's slot was mysteriously murdered while Terry was in the bathroom... or so he claims. In his unflappable sense of duty, apparently stronger than his sense of legal obligation, Terry immediately took over the role of consigliere for listeners stupefied by the supernatural. And in Terry's words, "that's how a legend was created." Now, after a three-year hiatus, Terry Carnation returns with a new podcast, also called Dark Air, available starting April 1, 2021, wherever podcasts are given away for free. While you may not have heard of him, there will be something uneasily familiar about his voice and visage. And the audience will come to know his strange power for tearing off the head of disbelief and reaching down deep into our souls to yank out the viscera of our darkest fears and mysteries. Wrapped around our interview with Terry, our good buddy Rich Hatem joins us once again to discuss his latest adventures and projects. We'll also con him into playing our version of a game show, in the spirit of America's NPR radio program Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me! and Britain's Would I Lie to You? We'll tell Rich three outrageous paranormal stories, and he has to guess which one is fake. Please join us for an episode of inscrutable levity.

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0:41.1	I have a confession to make. When we started this show when we were trying to figure out
0:45.8	how to position ourselves in the podcast world, I will readily admit that I shied away from
0:51.3	using the word paranormal in any of our marketing materials. We didn't have any marketing material.
0:58.6	Whatever my point was, I felt like the word paranormal was tainted. And on top of that,
1:04.1	the word podcast was at the time tainted too. Everyone with a microphone had a podcast.
1:09.4	It was challenging to create a brand in a world that many considered a joke on a joke.
1:13.8	When people asked me what I did in those early days, I would often mumble the word podcaster
1:18.8	under my breath and then leave the word paranormal out of it entirely. When we started, we had
1:24.5	no idea if anyone would listen to us. It much less if we'd be able to turn it into a
1:28.5	job somehow, but it did. And now when people ask me what I do, I proudly say I'm a paranormal
1:34.3	podcaster. And then I explain that I don't mean that I'm personally paranormal, but that
1:37.9	I co-host a podcast with my best friend, Forest. And we talk about stuff that might often
1:42.9	be paranormal. I feel like this cold open is going to drag on a little bit, you know?
1:48.6	And I'm regretting letting you do it tonight. No, no way. Bear with me here. We've been
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