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Deadline: White House

“‘Terrific guy’ to ‘not a fan’”

Deadline: White House

Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW

Msnbc, News, Ms Now, Versant, Politics, Government, The White House, Nicolle Wallace, Daily News, Washington Dc

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 18 December 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Nicolle Wallace on the recent New York Times article, which covers the extensive relationship between Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein.

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0:00.0

I had a falling out with him a long time ago.

0:06.5

I don't think I've spoken to him for 15 years.

0:08.8

I wasn't a fan.

0:10.1

I was not, yeah, a long time ago.

0:12.1

I'd say maybe 15 years.

0:14.5

I was not a fan of his.

0:15.9

That I can tell you.

0:16.8

I was not a fan of his.

0:19.4

Except when I was.

0:20.5

Hi again, everybody. It's 5 o'clock in New York from quote, terrific guy to quote, not a fan of his. Except when I was. Hi again, everybody.

0:21.4

It's 5 o'clock in New York.

0:22.5

From, quote, terrific guy to quote, not a fan,

0:25.5

Donald Trump has had every answer when asked about his relationship

0:30.5

with the deceased sex offender, Jeffrey Epstein.

0:33.4

Now on the eve of the deadline for the Justice Department

0:36.2

to release the Epstein files in their entirety, the New York Times is out with some extraordinary, brand new, exhaustive reporting.

0:44.1

There could just be the tip of the iceberg on describing the relationship between Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump.

0:49.8

The reporting is based on more than 30 interviews with Epstein's employees, survivors, and people who have crossed past with the two men.

0:58.4

From that report, quote, over the years, Mr. Epstein or his partner, Galane Maxwell, introduced at least six women who have accused them of grooming or abuse to Mr. Trump, according to interviews, court testimony, and other records.

1:12.8

One was a minor at the time. None have accused Mr. Trump himself of inappropriate behavior.

1:19.0

One of the women who has never before spoken publicly about the experience told the New York Times

1:24.2

that Mr. Epstein had coerced her into attending four parties at Mr.

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