Tensions Simmer Between Minnesota and the Trump Administration
Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast
WNYC Studios
4.4 • 675 Ratings
🗓️ 9 January 2026
⏱️ 22 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | This is Brian Lairer's Daily Politics podcast from WNYC Studios. |
| 0:10.3 | It's Friday, January 9th. |
| 0:14.9 | I'm Tiffany Hanson in for Brian. |
| 0:17.1 | Today, we'll start in Minnesota. |
| 0:19.8 | The state is on edge after an ICE agent killed a woman in |
| 0:24.1 | Minneapolis. Protests have erupted. Politicians are swearing during press conferences, and the |
| 0:29.9 | governor is saying that he has plans to call in the National Guard. We'll see where things |
| 0:35.5 | stand with that and with Governor Walls himself, Walls, the former |
| 0:38.8 | Democratic running mate of Kamala Harris, announced earlier this week that he will not be running for |
| 0:45.0 | re-election for a third term there amid investigations into fraud in the state. On one hand, |
| 0:51.5 | the Department of Justice is prosecuting individuals that it claims were involved in a pandemic-era scheme to defraud the government of hundreds of millions of dollars. |
| 1:00.0 | While some are still facing prosecution, others have pleaded guilty, and in one case, several have pleaded guilty to attempting to bribe a juror. |
| 1:08.7 | On the other hand, federal prosecutors are descending on the state to investigate |
| 1:12.3 | more recent allegations of fraud at several child care facilities in the state. And now hearings have |
| 1:17.9 | begun in Congress and Republican lawmakers on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee |
| 1:22.9 | are accusing both Governor Walls and Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison of being, at the very least, asleep at the wheel. |
| 1:30.4 | In response, the Trump administration has halted billions of dollars in funding for social services programs to five states led by Democrats, including Minnesota and New York, by the way. |
| 1:41.0 | Joining us to discuss is Rachel Leingang, a Midwest political correspondent for The Guardian U.S. |
| 1:47.5 | She is based in Minneapolis. Welcome, Rachel. |
| 1:50.6 | Good morning. |
| 1:51.8 | Before we talk about all of that fraud that I was mentioning, I do think we should start here with the news from Minnesota that is on everyone's mind, |
| 1:59.3 | and that is the killing on Wednesday |
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