This is a series of

i'm John Batzow with professor brenda shafer

dr shafer at the foundation for the Defense of Democracy's.

Right now, the author, Brenda Schaefer,

is here for Iran is more than Persia,

ethnic politics in Iran.

This is a revelation about a state that the whole of Eurasia regards as a threat.

Iran is now providing war fighting material to Russia, to attack Europe, Ukraine. In effect, not even in effect. Iran is at war with

NATO right now. So what does that mean about Iran's strength, internal strength?

I learned from read in's book that the Persians, that

Tehran Persians dominate the country in an imperial fashion that is indistinguishable from the two shas that is indistinguishable from the

sovereign powers of kings. Brenda you you pose that the democracy

conundrum that these ethnic minorities are not going to

stay loyal to Tehran if there's a vote.

What is striking about this is the additional puzzle. This is something that the

regime believes, which is why they persecute the minorities, but that the opposition heretofore understood as the anti-regime

opposition of say the Greens also believe this. Please explain that.

Right. So you know people that are looking now with this this wave of anti-regime protest I keep hearing analysts right and say wow all the

minorities are in this together isn't it wonderful how unified they are?

Part one in part two are not necessarily the same.

I mean, there are a lot of minority groups

that wanted to get rid of the Soviet Union.

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