Welcome back to the fight with Teddy Atlas. I'm Ken Rideau, joined as always by the great Teddy

Atlas. We're here today for part two of the 25 anniversary, 25 year anniversary of the Michael Mora winning his world title with Teddy as his trainer in part one against the great event all

That's right in part one we covered how you were

introduced to Michael Mora and we left off with the psychology of you you

working with Michael you guys were encamping in Palm Springs preparing for the Holy

Field fight and I'll let you pick it up from there Michael is just get to the point

where he's testing you by calling you the night before a run, for instance,

and telling you, I'm not going to make it to the run. In other words, like, you're not going to call

and tell someone the example you used, you're not going to call someone and tell them, hey, I'm going to rob a bank.

So he's basically testing you by trying to push you away and see how much you want to be there with him.

I'll let you take it from there.

Hey, if he's going to take a risk, he wanted to see

if I was going to take a risk with him.

He wanted to know what I think any human being

would want to know.

He was right. He wanted to know, can I depend on you?

I have to get in a difficult place, a scary place, a square circle, the chamber of truth,

whatever you want to call it, a place where you don't always come out as good as you go in.

And he wanted to know if he had his support.

You're going to tell him to do that.

He wanted to know if you're willing to take a risk too.

And you're willing to walk to walk, so to speak, and face the things that you're asking him to face in a different way.

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