Our thanks to Beth Shactor, co-showrunner, EP, executive producer of SuperPumpt The Battle for

Uber and Billions.

Both airs Sunday nights on Showtime.

We appreciate your time so much.

It's great to have you.

Thank you. I'm glad to be here.

Obviously, I mean, it's right up the C's alley because we covered Uber's building from the start.

We knew Travis pretty well. He came down here. I still remember

I P. O day like it was yesterday. What drew you guys to the story? I love this line that you gave when you were speaking to the

Washington Post about how it's an example of

revolutionary who eventually became the fascists. Yeah, I mean it's really

fascinating. So it starts with Mike Isaac's book,

Mike Isaac, New York Times, tech reporter,

I'm sure you guys have crossed paths.

Mike was this extraordinary book about Travis and and sort of the culture that he came from and the culture that was created and what happened.

And in that, in writing it, obviously, you go through all the steps and you have a galley, and he sort of knew Brian Coupleman from Twitter.

So he diemned Brian on Twitter, I think on like a Thursday, send him the manuscript on a Friday.

Brian shared it with David, his writing partner

who he's known for their entire life since they were 15

on that Friday.

I believe they tried to get,

like they basically were in by the end of the weekend

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