Theresa Kang Lau,

Lau, Blue Marble Pictures, founder, and CEO,

executive producer of Pacinco on Apple TV Plus.

It's really good to talk to you, and I've seen the first few episodes.

It's beautiful. I guess I mean we could start with

sort of just the timeline of the beginnings it's been so long since you read the book

clearly and began shopping it around and so much has happened

in Hollywood regarding diverse voices since then.

Could you just talk about the difference between the environment then and the environment now?

Yes, so four years ago is when I first read the book and to take you back a little bit

when I was at college at UCLA,

I studied Asian American Studies and anthropology.

And that's when I first heard about Zayonichi Koreans,

which are Koreans who live in Japan.

And they remained in Japan during Japanese occupation

and beyond World War II.

And I heard so much about the Korean diaspora

in the US, but really not about Japan and when I then years later first read the book

Pachinko there was this moment of recognition again but at that time four years ago, it was very hard to sell any

project that at all Asian-led cast. That was a period piece that required a certain budget level. And definitely that was a period piece that required a certain budget level and definitely that was in Korean, Japanese, and English languages.

That was almost unheard of. So now where we are, you know, with Parasite, which is an amazing film, Minari,

Squid game of course, I feel like our timing is appropriate but when we first started the project it was

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