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The Daily Beast Podcast

TEASER: Mueller Deputy: This Is Where the Special Counsel Came Up Short

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4.68.4K Ratings

🗓️ 1 November 2020

⏱️ 5 minutes

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Summary

Hindsight is always 2020, and in this case, Andrew Weissman is pretty sure where Mueller and team came up short. He was part of the team that investigated Enron. He personally promoted former FBI attorney Lisa Page and served as Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s deputy during the Russian collusion hearings. He wrote a book about the experience, but came on the newest members-only episode of The New Abnormal to share that insight with co-host Molly Jong-Fast. When it came down to it, “we didn't have sufficient proof that people in the Trump campaign were trained not to accept anything from foreigners,” says Weissman. Also, “I think we should have said whether we thought he obstructed justice or not. I didn't think we should have used very hard to understand double negatives.” Then there’s the four-eyed elephant in the room named Bill Barr, who Weissman says no one from his team anticipated “undermining the rule of law.” But it didn’t take them long in their investigation to figure out that was what was happening. Speaking of which, Weissman predicts a lot more “harm” to the justice system if Trump is re-elected for another four years. And if Trump isn’t? It won’t be gumdrops and roses just yet. Weissman has an unnerving prediction for what Trump will do if he loses. Plus! He breaks down how he got to this place and has some action items to make sure it never happens again. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It's funny because you know I did lease a page's first interview and then I met with Peter

1:20.3

Ruff Struck right after that.

1:23.4

Interesting.

1:24.4

Yeah, to try to get him to do an interview, which I was not successful at,

1:28.0

but I did eventually get him to come on the podcast months later.

1:33.3

But so I know a lot, you know I know they're both huge fans of yours.

1:37.6

So for me it's very interesting to like square the circle.

1:41.6

Well, Lisa, you know you may have heard.

1:43.4

Lisa was relatively new in the General Counselor's Office at the FBI when I was there.

1:49.4

And I promoted her.

1:51.6

Oh, right.

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