Like this is what your dad and mom should have been telling you or probably would have been telling you.

I think either because kids weren't told that or because they were and they forgot or they were and they didn't take it seriously or whatever else they were and they deviated from that because of social groups or whatever.

That's why Jordan Peterson, someone like that is all these people's, all these men's dad.

Like he is functionally adhering to a dad father figure

and telling you to clean your room blah blah but you know it's yeah it's been said

countless times that that is a weird way to interact with an online

like a self-up guru is to think he's your dad or to channel on the sort of this is my

father and I need guidance because men lack guidance or whatever but again you know men do lack guidance in a lot of ways

It's just paying for a lecture is is not like necessarily a widespread solution to that problem so exactly and especially because

it dissuades you from class consciousness in the true understanding of what were the most

problems of the world sent from and which is the dominion of one

blah blah but we can we can this has been a brutally beautiful conversation

but you know throughout it you know we we all like

ritually took our decks out and we were pissing on men so obviously we're not I'm

kidding but we kind of finish finish on a relatively positive note. I have my

takes but what what is non-toxic masculinity for you know or an even better question like is it even a thing?

So the first step to answer that question is to acknowledge that masculinity is an aesthetic, it's a

construct and an aesthetic. It's a construct and an aesthetic.

And so a man, like what makes a man, what are masculine traits,

strength, leadership, whatever else ones, you know, like those are all things that you know a human can possess and so

socialized into us is the idea and role that a man's going to be take the lead

and a woman's going to follow when that's not always the case.

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