Team tiers from Super Bowl or Bust to Mock Draft Enthusiasts

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Sports, Football, Nfl Draft, Robert Mays, Nfl, Football,

4.6 • 3.3K Ratings

🗓️ 16 October 2025

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

We're one-third of the way through the NFL regular season, and we know a thing or two about each of the league's 32 teams. We know enough, in fact, to start separating the teams into distinct groups. That's right, it's team tiers time. Robert Mays and Dave Helman drop all 32 teams in one of five buckets—from Super Bowl or Bust to Mock Draft Enthusiasts—on this episode of The Athletic Football Show.

Rundown (timestamps are approximate)

7:12 Super Bowl or Bust

20:57 Playoff Teams

43:42 Wild Card Caliber

55:13 Tier 4, Good Vibes

1:04:03: Tier 4, Bad Vibes

1:13:52 Mock Draft Enthusiasts

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1:47.1	Welcome to the Athletic Football Show. I'm Robert Mays.
1:48.3	We did this show six weeks into last season, and we're running it back this season.
1:52.8	We're a third of the way through the year, and we use this as an opportunity last year to just
1:57.2	take a step back and try to figure out where these teams sit in the hierarchy of the NFL.
2:02.4	I did it with Dave Hellman last season.
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