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🗓️ 2 November 2025
⏱️ 32 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I want to start today by playing a testy little exchange from last week between President |
| 0:09.3 | Trump and CNN's Caitlin Collins. |
| 0:14.3 | Collins is asking the president about his decision to pardon Changpeng Xiao, better known |
| 0:19.4 | as CZ. CZ was the CEO of the crypto platform |
| 0:23.8 | Binance, and he pled guilty to money laundering last year. |
| 0:27.5 | Today you pardoned the founder of Binance. Can you explain why you chose to pardon him and |
| 0:32.6 | did it have anything to do with his involvement in your family's? |
| 0:34.6 | Which one? Who is that? The founder of Binance. He has an involvement in |
| 0:38.1 | Europe. The recent one, yes. I believe we're talking about the same break because I do part |
| 0:43.3 | in a lot of people. I don't know he was recommended by a lot of people. A lot of people say that, |
| 0:49.5 | are you talking about the crypto person? A lot of people say that he wasn't guilty of anything. He served |
| 0:55.1 | four months in jail and they say that he was not guilty of anything, that what he did, |
| 1:00.4 | well, you don't know much about crypto. You know nothing about, you know nothing about nothing, |
| 1:04.7 | you have fake news. I played that exchange for Alex Kirshner. Alex is a contributing writer here at Slate, who writes a lot about crypto. |
| 1:14.3 | And I asked him to remind everyone what CZ actually did, because if you listen to the president, |
| 1:20.9 | well, it's hard to know. |
| 1:23.1 | The United States has rules that are designed to stop people from helping others launder money. |
| 1:30.2 | And finance not only didn't stick within the spirit of those rules, but flattered them, |
| 1:37.2 | aggressively, even mocked them in internal communications that the United States government unearthed. |
| 1:43.8 | And the reason why Changpeng |
| 1:46.6 | Zhao went to jail was because he turned Binance into a deliberate playground for money |
| 1:54.3 | launderers and financial criminals who were using crypto to skirt the rules of the U.S. and really global financial system. |
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