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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

TBD | The CDC Under Fire

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate

News, Daily News, News Commentary, Politics

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 22 August 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

Two weeks ago, a gunman fired over 500 bullets at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention building in Atlanta. Between the anti-public health rhetoric coming from Robert F. Kennedy Jr. at the top, personnel cuts and firings, and now a literal shooting, many employees are reaching their breaking point.     Guest: Lauren Weber, health science accountability reporter for the Washington Post. Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Ayo here with a reminder that there's no time like the present to think about gifting.

0:04.9

So make a list, grab the wrapping paper and get scrolling.

0:08.8

Whether it's headphones for a music maestro, a smartwatch for a fitness fan, or a console for an avid gamer.

0:15.8

Ayo checks prices so you don't have to, and our choice of delivery slots help you keep surprises hidden. No last minute

0:22.8

clicking for you. Get your gifting sorted early at a.o.com. There are some things you should

0:31.4

always check, like the hygiene rating on your local takeaway, the setting on your razor,

0:39.3

and whether the party actually is fancy dress. The other thing you should check is your Experian credit report, especially if you're

0:45.7

looking to borrow money. It lets you understand what lenders see so you can increase your chances

0:50.9

of getting the best deals. It's dead easy to check it and completely free.

0:56.7

See it in seconds. Download the Experian app today.

1:04.7

Not long after the shooting at the Centers for Disease Control on August 8th, Lauren Weber traveled

1:10.6

there to talk to workers.

1:12.4

Even just standing on the street corner,

1:14.8

you could see the bolt holes in a federal building,

1:19.7

which is just a really striking visual.

1:23.8

Lauren is a health and science accountability reporter

1:26.5

at the Washington Post.

1:28.3

She'd just been to CDC headquarters in June, but after the shooting, the scene was strikingly different.

1:35.0

In front of the bullets guard building, there was a makeshift memorial to David Rose, the police officer who'd been killed.

1:42.0

There were all these heartfelt messages written on it. I counted by Monday

1:45.9

60-something flowers left for him and just some heartbreaking messages for his wife, his two children,

1:52.8

his wife is pregnant with a third child on the way, you know, just heartbreaking messages from

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