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TBD | RFK Jr. Is a Feature, Not a Bug

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

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🗓️ 31 January 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

Tapped by Trump for the role of health secretary, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. presents himself as someone willing to say what other politicians won’t. But during his Senate confirmation hearings, both Democrats and Republicans questioned his previous statements about vaccines—and questioned whether he even knows what the job he’s trying to get entails. But his nomination signals that maybe it isn’t about vaccines - it’s about wanting to blow up the whole healthcare establishment.  Guest: Dan Diamond, White House correspondent for The Washington Post Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Evan Campbell, Patrick Fort, and Cheyna Roth. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:34.7

Good morning. This hearing will come to order.

0:39.0

I'm willing to bet that between Dan Diamond and myself, we have logged hundreds of hours in congressional hearings.

0:45.6

I covered Washington for about a decade, and Dan is a White House reporter for the Washington Post.

0:51.3

Before that, he covered health care for nine years. I thank my colleagues and

0:56.7

Mr. Kennedy for being here today. Mr. Kennedy, congratulations on your nomination.

1:03.8

I talked to Dan on Wednesday after the Senate Finance Committee hearing. That's the committee

1:08.8

that has the power to move his nomination forward.

1:12.3

It felt like a circus, Lizzie. There were people there to protest RFK Jr. to interrupt the

1:17.3

proceedings. There were many fans of RFK Jr. who lined the halls, wore pro-Kennedy, paraphernalia,

1:24.0

and often booed or cheered the senators based on whether they agreed with them.

1:29.5

It was pretty remarkable, both for what it showed about Kennedy and the Trump administration's

1:35.3

approach to public health, including this moment where Kennedy whiffed a key question.

1:42.2

Democrat Catherine Cortez Mastow asked what would happen if a pregnant woman with an

1:46.8

incomplete miscarriage went to the ER needing an emergency abortion to save her life. But she's in a state

1:54.2

where abortion is banned. You would agree also as an attorney that federal law protects her right to that emergency care, correct?

2:04.7

I don't know. I mean, the answer that is I don't know.

2:10.9

Does it? Well, let me ask you this as an attorney.

2:13.2

The reason I play that clip for Dan is that it made me wonder if Kennedy is prepared, because that very issue of emergency abortion was litigated in the Supreme Court just last year.

2:27.1

It's hard to listen to that exchange and not wonder if RFK Jr.'s inexperience is actually part of the plan.

2:34.4

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. was not tapped for this role because he's an expert of health policy.

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