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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

TBD | Does Google Suck Now?

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate

News, Daily News, News Commentary, Politics

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 12 April 2024

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Why lately our search engines just don’t seem to deliver results. Guest: Jason Koebler, cofounder of 404 Media and co-host of the 404 Media Podcast. Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:14.4

A few months ago, journalist Jason Kebler had some friends over to his house, and in the middle of conversation he went to look something up on the internet on a search engine. I searched it on Kagi which

0:19.2

is not Google and they saw my screen and they're like what the hell is that like what what are you doing

0:26.1

because they were just they had never seen the site before essentially

0:31.1

What is Kagi? Kagi is a Google competitor.

0:37.0

It's an alternative search engine and it costs $10 a month to use and I've been using it for three months.

0:44.8

And I have essentially forgotten that I use it because it just works so well.

0:49.7

Like I don't even think about it.

0:51.2

In my opinion, Jason is one of the best tech

0:56.7

journalists working today. He's a co-founder of the independent tech

1:00.5

journalism site 404 media and his experience trying to get

1:05.4

404's articles picked up on Google is part of his frustration with the search

1:09.8

engine. They are not really on Google News, which at previous jobs was a huge driver of

1:17.0

traffic for us and we started noticing that our articles are being scraped by AI and they were being republished on these really like very spammy websites like AI versions of our articles with just like tiny changes and we were

1:36.4

noticing that many of these websites were getting indexed by Google news and

1:40.9

we're ranking above us on Google. And so we just started writing about how this

1:46.1

was happening and sort of going down this rabbit hole and realizing that Google is not

1:52.4

surfacing results that I wanted to see just as a user.

1:57.0

In the story that you wrote about this,

2:00.0

there's this sentence that stuck out to me.

2:02.0

You say, I'll probably never switch back to

2:06.2

Google unless Kagi becomes significantly worse. Or Google reverses years of annoying interface and search decisions that have prioritized

2:15.3

ads, sponsored results, spammy affiliate content, and AI generated result.

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