Taylor Swift Derangement Syndrome (w/ B.D. McClay)

Know Your Enemy

Matthew Sitman

Right Wing, National Review, History, Socialists, Reactionaries, Conservative Movement, Conservatism, News, Society & Culture, Ronald Reagan, Leftists Look At Conservatism, William F Buckley, Politics

4.7 • 1.8K Ratings

🗓️ 26 March 2024

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

Matt and Sam talk to B.D. McClay about the right's deranged freakout over Taylor Swift — and what she can tell us about American fame, fortune, and fear.

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0:00.0	All right, welcome listeners to episode 89 of Know Your Enemy.
0:03.9	I'm at Sitman, your podcast co-host, and I'm here as always with my great friend, Sam Heather Bell.
0:08.8	Hey Samuel.
0:09.6	Hello, Matt.
0:10.5	How are you doing?
0:11.3	I'm great.
0:12.3	I'm great. I'm having a really productive morning. We've already
0:14.6	recorded an intro for something else and I'm about halfway through a piece of writing for
0:20.2	David Marcus. I will not mention which editors are waiting on my copy but
0:26.0	Yeah, that's a little dangerous. I gotta finish it now. Yes, but we wanted to record this
0:30.5	intro for an episode that it really its origins were a few months ago when another great friend, Barbara McClay, Biedy McClay, as you'll know her from her byline, was in New York and hadn't seen her for a while and I just said Barbara
0:44.1	tell me about Taylor Swift. This is right at the start of when she was dating
0:49.5	Travis Kelsey which is to say also when the derangement, which already had been substantial,
0:55.0	ratcheted up, at least a few notches, especially from the online right,
1:00.0	social media, right?
1:01.0	Yeah.
1:02.0	And she just held me wrapped.
1:03.8	I mean, anything Barbara talks to me about, that tends to be the case.
1:07.0	But then she also did a wonderful series of posts on Substack about this, which we'll
1:12.2	link to and talk about in a little bit
1:14.0	but all that is a big wind-up to say
1:16.0	we had our great friend Barbara McClay on
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