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Welcome to Jam Session, I'm Juliet Littman.

I'm Amanda Dobbins.

Today our outline broke some news to me. Maybe we're breaking it to you. Taylor Swift and Maddie Healy.

TMZ says they're broken up. Amanda, do you believe it?

TMZ is typically reliable. This is a one blind source situation.

A friend close to the couple, but TMZ doesn't tend to run with things unless they know what's up.

And also every single sensible bone in anyone's body would tell Taylor Swift to end this right now.

So I think I'm just like, sure, thank God.

Our national nightmare is over. We don't have to talk about this anymore.

I agree with you that TMZ is almost always correct, but with this kind of one source, it's true.

You're right. Story. I have some questions.

And my main question is, who from Taylor's campus had to make TMZ the mouthpiece on this,

whether it's true or not? Because it's very Bieber, it's very Kardashian sort of where they

just go to TMZ in some kind of trade. And this has been to call it a bad look for Taylor Swift

would be an understatement. It's actually troubling. I mean, particularly since he has a lot of

problematic views and she declared her concert a safe space for the LGBTQ plus community yesterday.

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