Hello from New York. You're listening to a special edition of Tasting Menu, giving you

our pick of the Open Future season, which the economist launched this year to celebrate

175 years since our founding. Open Future is an initiative to remake the case for liberal

values and policies at a time when we think they're under threat. We wanted our exploration

of ideas to involve our critics as well as our supporters. And we've started lively conversations

across all of the economist platforms in the newspaper, on the website and through our podcasts,

films and on social media. Here's just a flavour of it. I'm Anne McElvoy, Senior Editor

at the Economist and on your Open Future menu today, Angelina Jolie explains how to alleviate

the refugee crisis. James Comey on the Trump fever that may actually make America stronger

and be on from ever on why we have to fight for Europe's liberal values. But we start

with the Open Future Festival held here in New York on Saturday, September 15th. Sandy

Minton-Beddo's Editor-in-Chief of the Economist shared the stage with Steve Bannon, President

Trump's former chief strategist, to take his views on directly face to face.

What I've said and I hang on HB1 visas in excess immigration is to limit that so that we

can have our African American, our Hispanic and working class community can finally start

to get jobs in the high tech space. Illegal immigration and legal immigration are nothing

more exactly what the bad trade deals is to suppress workers' wages of all races and

creeds. I would absolutely disagree because if you look at this country, foreign entrepreneurs

create 25% of new companies in this country. More than half of American tech companies

are founded either by immigrants or the children of immigrants. Immigration in this country

has led to more jobs, more innovation, more entrepreneurship. By cutting legal immigration,

you are cutting a source of growth and prosperity. You are going to hurt the prospects of the

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