Tasha Cobbs Leonard Gets Real With Lecrae About Obesity
The Deep End With Lecrae
Lecrae
4.8 • 602 Ratings
🗓️ 6 February 2025
⏱️ 77 minutes
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Summary
In this raw and powerful conversation, Tasha Cobbs Leonard sits down with Lecrae to talk about the struggles behind her success—her battle with depression, anxiety, rejection, and body image, and how faith helped her overcome. She opens up about the backlash from the church over her collaboration with Nicki Minaj, the weight of expectations, and finding balance between faith and mental health.
We also cover:
🔥 How did "Break Every Chain" change her life?
🔥 What does the church get wrong about obesity & self-worth?
🔥 How did she navigate rejection while leading worship?
This is Tasha Cobbs Leonard like you've never heard her before — unfiltered and honest.
Let's go to the Deep End!
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| 0:00.0 | I was the plus-sized girl who hung with all of the popular girls who were really, really pretty, the definition of what the magazine says. |
| 0:07.7 | But because your plus size, you don't make the homecoming court, but we'll give you this, you can sing the national anthem. |
| 0:14.0 | You know, and the older I got, that darkness was still there. |
| 0:18.0 | I would literally minister at church. |
| 0:20.9 | I would watch them be healed. |
| 0:22.6 | And I would go home and just be |
| 0:24.3 | in the dark. Like, I would be |
| 0:26.7 | plagued. And I'd never forget |
| 0:28.5 | one night, I woke up, and I know it was |
| 0:30.6 | Holy Spirit. He said to me, |
| 0:32.6 | Let's rewind the tape a little bit. Let's go |
| 0:34.7 | back to about 2014. |
| 0:36.8 | You did the celebration of gospel on BT. Uh-huh. And somebody shouted you out. Nicky. The Barbie gave you a shout-out, which leads to a friendship, and then by 2017 a collaboration. It's a big deal. It's a big deal. Why would you take the risk? Like, what made you say, I'm gonna do it? |
| 0:54.9 | I might get some lashing about this, but I'm sitting with... |
| 0:59.0 | This is the deep end with La Cray. |
| 1:03.9 | All right. |
| 1:05.6 | Check this out. |
| 1:07.2 | We got somebody super special for y'all today. |
| 1:09.4 | I don't know how season two, we got blessed with the best guests, but we did. |
| 1:15.6 | We got obviously a chart topper. |
| 1:19.2 | She's a chart topper. |
| 1:20.7 | Drop the number one hits, the Billboard hits. |
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