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I'm Virginia Allen, and I'm Kristen and I'm Kim.

And back on the show with us today,

our Expertage Foundation Senior Communications Manager, Marguerite Bowling.

Marguerite, welcome back. It's been a minute.

Thanks for having me.

This is exciting. We have you back on the show. And at the start of summer, this is a great time to have you back on.

We have many a topic that we want your perspective as a comms professional

and as a mom on today, which we're excited to talk about. But given the fact that it is the

unofficial start of summer, we talked last week about some recommendations for summer beach

reads. So this week, the question is, what type of summer water person are you? Pool, Beach, Lake,

river? Oh, they're all great. I got to say lake. I'm Jonesen a lake vacation. Yeah. I'm actually the

same. I think there's something incredibly peaceful. So calm. About the lake, more so than any other place.

The ocean's very relaxing, but the noise, there's something about the noise of the

waves that it is calming, but yeah, there's something about the total silence of a lake that

just, you can't match that piece.

You tend to be a little more isolated.

It's not as crowded.

Well, that depends where you go.

True, true. Kristen. Yeah, no, I mean, being from the Midwest and having the great lakes, you would think that that would be my answer. But I've been going to the beach every summer since I was, you know, I think one. My mom has a photo of me with little purple sunglasses and super cute, but I just love the beach.

I love, you know, drinking a high noon or a corona light or something like that and just being in the salty water.

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