So Tara Sophia Moore is an expert on women's leadership and well-being.

She's the author of Playing Big, Find Your Voice, Your Mission, Your Message, published by Penguin in October of 2014.

She's the creator of the acclaimed Playing Big Leadership Program for women, which now has more than a thousand graduates from around the world.

She lives in San Francisco and loves dance, art, and long walks with her beloved husband,

son and golden retriever.

Tara Moore, welcome back to Zen Parenting Radio.

Oh, thanks so much for having me back.

It's always a pleasure to talk with you guys.

Yes, we are so excited to have you. And from what I understand,

playing big is in paperback now, right, Tara? Yeah, it just came out in paperback, which I'm so

excited about because it's easier for people to hold in their hands and move around life with

and it has a beautiful new cover that's different from the hard back. And then as an

author, the paperback launch is really fun in a different way because there's not that time

crunch rush of the book is first out. So you kind of can do things in a more mellow extended way and

talk to more niche groups about the book. So I'm really enjoying it. Oh, that's great. And this is

the second time we've had you on. I'm sure the first time was right after your book was released. And at the

time you were a new mom and now you have a son who's how old? Yeah, he's going to be two in February.

Wow. In fact, I was kind of chuckling when you read in the bio, he loves walks with her son because

when I wrote that, that meant him in the carrier, you know, on my chest. Right. When I wrote that in my

bio. And now a walk with him looks like, like my blood pressure is at like 250 because I'm

watching the driveways and the street and what kind of dog is approaching and he's like careening

all over the place. I think honestly, one of the hardest things about living in San Francisco

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