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Talking Turkey: A Holiday Special Edition

The Daily

The New York Times

News, Daily News

4.597.8K Ratings

🗓️ 23 November 2022

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Being tasked with the turkey on Thanksgiving can be a high-pressure, high-stakes job. Two Times writers share what they’ve learned. Kim Severson takes listeners on a journey through some of the turkey-cooking gimmicks that have been recommended to Americans over the decades, and J. Kenji López-Alt talks about his foolproof method for roasting a bird. Guest: Kim Severson, a food correspondent for The New York Times; and J. Kenji López-Alt, a food columnist for The Times.

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0:00.0

Today, a special Thanksgiving episode of The Daily.

0:05.1

Have you come across Turkey in your research?

0:08.6

About the high stakes quest to cook the perfect turkey.

0:13.8

Two foodwriters at the time, Kim Severson, cooking a turkey can be one of the most pain-in-the-ass

0:20.7

exercises in the American kitchen, and Jay Kenji Lopez-Alt.

0:25.6

So the mayo, you know, that one is all about getting the skin sort of flavorful and dark-brown

0:30.6

and sort of extra crispy.

0:32.4

On the hard-fought lessons that they've learned, it's Wednesday, November 23rd.

0:45.0

First, Kim Severson.

0:47.8

So why is Turkey such a vexing culinary challenge?

0:53.5

Okay, first of all, it is a giant bird.

0:57.0

Most people don't even know how to roast a chicken, and this is like five times the size

1:00.6

of a chicken.

1:02.4

Second of all, you only do it once a year.

1:04.5

So even if you made a killer turkey last year, you've probably forgotten what you did

1:08.6

and you have to start from scratch.

1:12.8

The other issue is that Turkey is notorious for needing the white meat to be cooked at

1:18.1

a different temperature than the dark meat, but it's all one bird and it can take hours.

1:23.2

So inevitably, you either have that kind of a gross, chickeny, raw thigh, or you have

1:30.5

breast meat that essentially turns to sawdust when you try to cut it.

1:36.0

And you have to imagine that screwing up the turkey gives all of your in-laws and all

1:41.5

of your friends who don't like you a great opportunity to come down on you.

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