It's a big one.

Laira Pinter came about.

It was a COVID idea.

Obviously we had the 5K radius, the one hour of exercise,

and so my brain went to when I can run as far as I want for as long as I want,

I will find the longest trail in Australia and I will run in one direction.

And so I pulled the team together.

We drove from Melbourne to Alice Springs.

Once COVID was done. Once COVID was done, there was a little gap. It closed back up afterwards,

but it was woefully underprepared and the film shows that. It was something that I show it

at school sometimes and I always say this is not what running should look

like. It's not what you should strive for. It's I put myself in a position that I would not do again.

I would do it so differently. But I learned so much out there and, you know, I wouldn't change it

for the world. But it was something that was, yeah, it was, I bit up a little more than I could chew.

Well, that of course was the episode we did just a few days ago with Lucy Bartholomew. A day out with Lucy. We went for a ride-up Kingers. We came back, had a coffee and we went for a cheeky trail run.

What a day. What a privilege to be able to go out with her in her own scene, a professional

trail runner, but someone who loves getting out on the bike too. If you haven't heard that

episode, get back and have a listen to that one. Right now, we've got a talking loft with Lucy, where I thought

it'd be funny to unpack a little bit of talking luf style questions in the running scene,

because I'm getting into my running as well now. I'm doing a little bit of trail running. I'm doing

a little bit of park run, all these sort of things. I thought, why don't unpack and find out

what are the style tips if you're going out running? What are the do's and the don'ts? Plus, we roll in, of course,

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