Hi, everybody. This is Talking Dateline. I'm Josh Mankowitz and I'm here with Andrea

Canning. Hi, Josh Mankowitz. Lovely to see you. You too. We're here to talk about your

episode, which is called The Footprint at the Lake. Yes. Which I just saw, like much of

our audience, and which I thought was great. If you didn't see it on television and you haven't

heard the podcast, it's right below this episode on the list of podcasts. So go there and listen

to that where you can watch on TV and then come back here. Okay. So let's talk about The Footprint

at the Lake. It is the Footprint at the Lake, but it's also kind of the tire track at the Lake,

right? That's what I was thinking. I was I like the title, but then I was like, wait, what about

the tire track? It's the tire track. The bicycle track is very, very important to the story.

Yeah. Let me just say this, starting off, which is I very much hope that nothing ever happens

to you. But if it does, and your husband is later quoted as saying, she was built like a tank.

I will personally seek him out and destroy him. Thank you. Yeah, because that's not the epitaph

people want to have. Right. You know, Manu Allen. She was a German woman from Bavaria.

And she was strong woman, you know, very strong woman. Yeah. In every sense. Yeah, exactly.

So this episode I saw was produced by Kim Krowitz and Justin Smith, who was out there with you in

the field. Kim was the the primary producer out in the field. I worked with Kim before. She is a

great producer. And in a story like this, like that is just so essential because you had

everybody that you want to talk to. I mean, very early on, you guys set up this dynamic where

in certainly in the first hour, like everything I'm thinking is, this is one of the people in the

house. The only question is which one. And to make that work, you want to talk to all the people

in the house, or at least you want to see them in police interviews. And you had all of that,

which I thought really, really worked. We did. Yeah. And that's Kim. So it really gives you the

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