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Talking Dateline: The Devil Wore White - Update

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Society & Culture, News, True Crime, Culture, Social

4.440.3K Ratings

🗓️ 3 June 2026

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Keith Morrison and Josh Mankiewicz sit down to talk about Keith’s episode, “The Devil Wore White.” It’s the story of the charismatic and manipulative grifter Sante Kimes and her two sons. One son, Kent Walker, was able to escape their mother’s grip. The other, Kenny Kimes, was not. Josh and Keith break down the dynamics of the Kimes family and explore what drove Sante and Kenny to kill. Keith shares an extra clip from his interview with Kent Walker, highlighting what it was like growing up with Sante as a mother. Dateline producer Ann Preisman joins Keith to talk about a recent update in the decades-old case, and to answer questions from social media. Have a question for Talking Dateline? DM us @DatelineNBC or leave a voicemail at (212) 413-5252 – your question could be featured in an upcoming episode. Listen to the full updated episode of “The Devil Wore White” on Apple: https://apple.co/4o0OBQ4 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3nw2Dit4n2mnsSMMW2l6d2

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, everybody. I'm Josh Mayakowitz, and we're talking Dateline today with Keith. Hi, Keith.

0:11.5

Oh, hello, Josh. So this episode is called The Devil War White, and it's the kind of story that we almost never do at Dateline because it's less about the relationship between killer and victim and almost entirely about the relationship between killer and other killer.

0:30.9

Now, this is the story of a criminal mastermind, someone you might have heard of.

0:36.0

Her name is Sante Kyn. She became famous back in the 90s when investigators who were looking for a missing millionaire

0:42.8

uncovered a very, very creepy, dark history of crimes and her surprising partner in those crimes

0:52.3

and those murders, her youngest son, Kenny.

0:55.9

Now, if you have not listened to this broadcast yet, it is the episode right below this one

1:00.5

in the list of podcasts that you chose from.

1:03.2

So you can go there, you can listen to it, you can watch it on Peacock, and then when you

1:08.3

come back, Keith has an extra clip that he wants to play for more of his

1:12.6

interview back in 2001 with Kent Walker, who was sort of the heart and soul of this show

1:18.7

in a lot of ways.

1:19.9

Later, Keith is going to be joined by Dateline producer Ann Priceman, who covered this story

1:25.0

and worked on this broadcast, and they will discuss some new

1:28.5

updates to the case before answering your viewer and listener questions on social media.

1:35.5

So let's talk Dateline.

1:37.1

So as I said in the intro, this is the kind of story we don't usually do here at Dateline.

1:42.0

That is absolutely correct.

1:43.7

This is less about killer and victim and more about killer and killer.

1:47.2

And it's a crazy, crazy story.

1:50.5

That's exactly what it is.

1:51.7

The craziest story ever.

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