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Talking Dateline: Out There in the Dark

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True Crime, Culture, Social, Society & Culture, News

4.438K Ratings

🗓️ 30 July 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Blayne Alexander and Dennis Murphy sit down to discuss Dennis’s episode “Out There in the Dark.” After Brandy Daniels was found gunned down inside her car in the driveway of her home in Zanesville, Ohio, investigators quickly zeroed in on a pair of suspects. But it would take years to bring them to justice for the murder. Blayne and Dennis discuss what led one of the suspects to crack, and play an extra clip from Dennis’s interview with the girlfriend of the other suspect. Plus, they answer questions from social media and talk about burner phones, exotic animals, Harry Potter, and Dennis’s parka. If you have a question for Talking Dateline, send us an audio message on social @datelinenbc or leave us a voicemail at 212-413-5252.

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0:00.0

Hi, everyone. It's Blaine Alexander and joining me today is the one, the only Dennis Murphy. Hi, Dennis.

0:11.1

Hey, Blaine. I'm delighted to be with you. It is a joy, my friend. Well, we are talking Dateline. We are going to be talking about Dennis's episode out there in the dark.

0:19.8

Now, if you haven't seen it yet, you can stream it on

0:21.9

Peacock or listen to it on your Dateline podcast feed and then come right back here for the chat.

0:27.5

So here's a quick recap. In 2014, 25-year-old Brandy Daniels was found shot to death,

0:33.1

execution style in her car at the top of her mother's driveway.

0:41.5

It took just a few weeks for detectives to zero in on two prime suspects,

0:45.8

Brandy's estranged husband, Josh Daniels, and his buddy, Sirius Underwood.

0:49.2

But it took almost two years for them to find enough evidence and a surprising motive to tie them to this crime.

0:53.3

Coming up later, we've got some podcast exclusive interview

0:56.2

clips for you, an excerpt from Josh Daniels interview with police that didn't make it into Dennis's

1:00.9

Dateline episode, and we've got more from Dennis's interview with Sirius Underwood's girlfriend.

1:06.6

So, of course, we will also be answering some of your questions from social media.

1:10.5

All right, Dennis, we've got a lot.

1:11.5

Let's talk Dateline.

1:12.5

Let's go.

1:13.2

Let's dive in.

1:14.0

I've got to say, I didn't see this ending coming.

1:15.8

And that's the mark of a good Dateline episode, right? That's good. I'm delighted to hear that. Yeah, no, no, no. This one was very interesting. I mean, just from the start, when you talk about the notion of somebody driving along in the dark,

1:29.0

and then they see headlights behind them, and you're kind of thinking, okay, is this just a weird

1:33.6

driver or am I in some sort of serious trouble? I think that's something that all of us can relate to.

1:39.7

And Blaine is especially chilling because this young woman is on her cell phone talking to her

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