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Talking Dateline: Cape Fear

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4.4 • 38K Ratings

🗓️ 2 July 2025

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

Josh Mankiewicz catches up with Dateline producer Shane Bishop about their classic episode, “Cape Fear.” Young mother Allison Jackson Foy went missing after leaving a Wilmington, North Carolina bar in 2006. Two years later, a man walking in the woods three miles from that bar, found her remains. Just 10 feet away, another set of remains was found—another missing woman, later identified as Angela Rothen. Both women had been murdered. Both murders remain unsolved. Josh and Shane discuss the “Unsolved Case Squad” used in this episode—which included Karen Read’s defense attorney Alan Jackson. They share behind the scenes details from Josh’s interview with the man Allison's family believes was responsible for her murder—something he denies. Plus, Josh shares an excerpt from his recent interview with Allison’s sister, Lisa Valentino, who today volunteers with the CUE Center for Missing Persons. “Lost Lane,” one of the cases she is working on, is featured in Season 4 of Josh’s Dateline: Missing in America podcast. If you have a question for Talking Dateline, send us an audio message on social @datelinenbc or leave us a voicemail at 212-413-5252. Listen to Season 4 of “Dateline: Missing in America” on Apple here: https://apple.co/4gdC871 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2dI7xHWuZj2tMBQSrUrV0J?si=c1f1c4671b47431f

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0:00.0

Hi, everybody. I'm Josh Mankiewicz, and we're talking Dateline. Today, as a special treat, I am joined by one of my closest friends on Dateline, producer Shane Bishop. Hi. Hi, Josh. And Shane has worked with me on a lot of stories and also on the episode that we're going to be talking about called

0:21.3

Cape Fear. If you haven't seen it, you can find it in the Dateline podcast feed. So go there,

0:27.4

listen to it, Cape Fear, and then come back here. So to recap, when a young mother named

0:33.5

Allison Jackson Foy went missing from a bar in Wilmington, North Carolina back in 2006.

0:39.3

Her family was really desperate for answers, and for nearly two years,

0:43.3

investigators searched for clues until they finally came across her remains.

0:49.3

And one of the things that was shocking about that was that those remains were next to the remains

0:55.4

of another missing woman named Angela Rothen.

0:59.0

Investigators did have a person of interest, a prime suspect.

1:03.9

The question was whether the case would be solved.

1:06.5

So for this talking dateline, we have an extra clip from a recent interview I did with one of the

1:12.1

victim's sisters for the new season of our Dateline Missing in America podcast.

1:16.7

Also, we have another extra clip related to a 2022 update in this case where you will hear

1:22.1

from Allison's adult daughter. All right, so let's talk Dateline. How did we come across this case back then?

1:29.1

Well, back in 2009, one of our old bosses had an idea for us to do mysteries, cold cases. And so he asked you and me and a few others at Dayline to put together what we eventually became the unsolved case squad.

1:44.0

And so I was looking for cases that

1:47.1

weren't solved, which is unusual for us. And this was one that came across my desk.

1:52.9

Yeah. Most of the cases we do have already been adjudicated, or at least they're adjudicated

1:57.9

very close to air, like Karen Reed was, it's always been clear to me

2:02.8

that law enforcement agencies and families would love it if we did more cold cases,

2:08.9

because those are the cases that are not getting publicity, and those are the cases that,

2:13.9

you know, they're really hoping that a TV show could shake something loose.

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