Talking ‘Changeover’ and the Alcaraz-Sinner Rivalry with Giri Nathan
The Tennis Podcast
David Law
4.6 • 2.4K Ratings
🗓️ 18 August 2025
⏱️ 67 minutes
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Summary
For this episode, Catherine and Matt speak to Giri Nathan, author of a new book called ‘Changeover’, all about the rivalry between Jannik Sinner and Carlos Alcaraz.
We talk about how their epic match at the 2022 US Open gave Giri the idea for the book, what separates these two from other players in the post Big 3 era, and how Giri went about capturing all the key moments from the 2024 season for the book.
Giri tells the story of his airport encounter with Sinner on the day that Sinner’s doping violation became public, we compare Sinner’s steady rise with Alcaraz’s prodigious results, and there’s consideration of Novak Djokovic’s role in their young rivalry.
Finally, we end with some thoughts about the US Open, and a quick fire round of questions about what the future might hold for these two players and this rivalry.
Changeover is out in the US on Tuesday 19th August and in the UK on Thursday 11th September.
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| 0:00.0 | Well, hello and welcome to the tennis podcast, a very special, very unique episode of the tennis podcast. |
| 0:17.6 | Today, we'll be back with our normal show tomorrow, Tuesday, to talk about the |
| 0:21.6 | finals and the final few days of Cincinnati. That show will be recorded live in New York at 4pm |
| 0:28.4 | Eastern time, 9pm UK time. So do join us on YouTube. If you fancy it, it'll of course be up as a podcast |
| 0:34.8 | soon afterwards as well. But to satisfy your tennis taste buds until then, |
| 0:40.1 | Matt and I are bringing you a special show with a special guest, |
| 0:44.9 | Giri Nathan, one of our very favourite tennis writers. |
| 0:48.5 | Geary is a staff writer and co-founder at Defector Media. |
| 0:52.3 | He's also someone we've been lucky enough to spend some time |
| 0:55.4 | with at a few grand slams over the past couple of years. And most importantly, for the purposes of |
| 1:01.3 | today, he's the author of Changeover, a new book documenting and contextualising the young rivalry |
| 1:08.3 | between Carlos Alcaraz and Yanik Sinner. |
| 1:11.8 | The book comes out tomorrow, Tuesday, in the US. |
| 1:14.8 | I'm going to do a sort of breakfast TV presentory thing and hold it up to the camera for anybody that's watching. |
| 1:21.7 | Here we are. |
| 1:22.1 | I love the aesthetic, by the way. |
| 1:23.8 | I'm a really big fan of the year. |
| 1:25.1 | Thank you. Yeah, the designers are wonderful. |
| 1:27.0 | I shouldn't judge a book by the cover, but I do and I love it very much. |
| 1:32.9 | So yeah, the book comes out tomorrow, Tuesday in the US, and Thursday, September the 11th in the UK. |
| 1:38.6 | So, Giri, thank you very much for being here today. |
| 1:41.1 | I'm sure this is a pretty crazy time. |
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