Talk Your Book: Will the Bubble Get Bigger?

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🗓️ 17 November 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Michael Batnick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ben Carlson⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ are joined by Michael Arone, Chief Investment Strategist and Managing Director at State Street Investment Management to discuss: government spending, bailouts, S&P 500®, stock market concentration, the AI bubble and much more. Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson’s ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠A Wealth of Common Sense⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Michael Batnick’s ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Irrelevant Investor⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Feel free to shoot us an email at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with any feedback, questions, recommendations, or ideas for future topics of conversation. Check out the latest in financial blogger fashion at The Compound shop: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://idontshop.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Investing involves the risk of loss. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be or regarded as personalized investment advice or relied upon for investment decisions. Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are employees of Ritholtz Wealth Management and may maintain positions in the securities discussed in this video. All opinions expressed by them are solely their own opinion and do not reflect the opinion of Ritholtz Wealth Management. See our disclosures here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://ritholtzwealth.com/podcast-youtube-disclosures/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Compound Media, Incorporated, an affiliate of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ritholtz Wealth Management⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, receives payment from various entities for advertisements in affiliated podcasts, blogs and emails. Inclusion of such advertisements does not constitute or imply endorsement, sponsorship or recommendation thereof, or any affiliation therewith, by the Content Creator or by Ritholtz Wealth Management or any of its employees. For additional advertisement disclaimers see here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://ritholtzwealth.com/advertising-disclaimers⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Important Risk Information Investing involves risk including the risk of loss of principal. ETFs trade like stocks, are subject to investment risk, fluctuate in market value and may trade at prices above or below the ETFs net asset value. Brokerage commissions and ETF expenses will reduce returns. The views expressed in this material are the views of Mike Arone through the period ended November 3, 2025 and are subject to change based on market and other conditions. This document contains certain statements that may be deemed forward-looking statements. Please note that any such statements are not guarantees of any future performance and actual results or developments may differ materially from those projected. Before investing, consider the funds’ investment objectives, risks, charges, and expenses. To obtain a prospectus, which contains this and other information, call 1.866.787.2257 or visit www.ssga.com. Read it carefully. ALPS Distributors, Inc. (fund distributor); State Street Global Advisors Funds Distributors, LLC (marketing agent). Adtrax Code: 8567100.1.1.AM.RTL / SPD004287 Expiration: 11/30/26 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Today's Animal Spirits Talk Your Book is brought to you by State Street Investment Management.
0:03.9	Go to statestreet.com slash I am to learn more about State Street's products, ETSR research,
0:08.7	and all that good stuff.
0:09.9	That's state street.com slash I am to learn more.
0:16.0	Welcome to Animal Spirits, a show about markets, life, and investing.
0:20.2	Join Michael Batnik and Ben Carlson as they talk about what they're reading, writing, and watching.
0:25.4	All opinions expressed by Michael and Ben are solely their own opinion and do not reflect the opinion of Riddholz wealth management.
0:31.7	This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon for any investment decisions.
0:37.4	Clients of Riddholt's wealth management may maintain positions in the securities discussed in this podcast.
0:45.7	Welcome to Animal Spirits with Michael and Ben.
0:47.6	On today's show, we are joined by Michael O'Roney, who is the chief investment strategist and managing director at State Street Investment Management.
0:53.2	Ben, this year has been all about the mic. Well, actually, that's not true. That's not true.
0:59.4	That's not true. First quarter, Liberation Day, that was definitely a macro headline trading
1:04.9	environment. But man, that feels like a long time ago. AI has just eaten everything since then,
1:10.6	right? Eventually, investors will care about those sort of headlines again. And you know what? I don't miss it. I don't think anybody misses it. That is not a fun environment. Well, no, of course. A bubble is more fun than a bare market, obviously. Maybe not as exciting. There's more, you get more adrenaline from a bear market, but a bubble is, you know, I think debating this stuff, the reason is, and I stole this from someone, I can't remember who, you always know when you're in a crisis. Everyone knows it. But no one, but you never really know for sure when you're in a bubble. There isn't a checklist because you've
1:44.4	been trying to define this slightly. There's no checklist you can say, check this, check this,
1:47.6	yep, it's a bubble. No one knows in real time because you always think like, well, yeah,
1:53.2	but what about this and what about that? And so that's why the discussion is so interesting
1:57.9	with AI because there are no definitive answers.
2:01.7	Not to nitpick, but I feel like the meme stock mania, you knew that eventually that was
2:06.9	unsustainable, right?
2:08.4	Yeah, that's true.
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