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Animal Spirits Podcast

Talk Your Book: How to Eliminate Negative Alpha

Animal Spirits Podcast

The Compound

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4.82K Ratings

🗓️ 10 February 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by Cole Wilcox, Founder and Chief Investment Officer of Longboard Asset Management to discuss if trend following still works for stocks, how to set the expectations for investors using trend following, positioning alts within a portfolio, and much more! Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson’s A Wealth of Common Sense Michael Batnick’s The Irrelevant Investor Feel free to shoot us an email at [email protected] with any feedback, questions, recommendations, or ideas for future topics of conversation.   Check out the latest in financial blogger fashion at The Compound shop: https://www.idontshop.com Past performance is not indicative of future results. The material discussed has been provided for informational purposes only and is not intended as legal or investment advice or a recommendation of any particular security or strategy. The investment strategy and themes discussed herein may be unsuitable for investors depending on their specific investment objectives and financial situation. Information obtained from third-party sources is believed to be reliable though its accuracy is not guaranteed.   Investing involves the risk of loss. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be or regarded as personalized investment advice or relied upon for investment decisions. Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are employees of Ritholtz Wealth Management and may maintain positions in the securities discussed in this video. All opinions expressed by them are solely their own opinion and do not reflect the opinion of Ritholtz Wealth Management. The Compound Media, Incorporated, an affiliate of Ritholtz Wealth Management, receives payment from various entities for advertisements in affiliated podcasts, blogs and emails. Inclusion of such advertisements does not constitute or imply endorsement, sponsorship or recommendation thereof, or any affiliation therewith, by the Content Creator or by Ritholtz Wealth Management or any of its employees. For additional advertisement disclaimers see here https://ritholtzwealth.com/advertising-disclaimers. Investments in securities involve the risk of loss. Any mention of a particular security and related performance data is not a recommendation to buy or sell that security. The information provided on this website (including any information that may be accessed through this website) is not directed at any investor or category of investors and is provided solely as general information. Obviously nothing on this channel should be considered as personalized financial advice or a solicitation to buy or sell any securities. See our disclosures here: https://ritholtzwealth.com/podcast-youtube-disclosures/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Today's Animal Spirits Talk Your Book is brought to you by Longboard Funds. Go to longboard

0:03.8

funds.com to learn more about the Longboard Fund, which is a trend-fowing strategy we were talking about

0:08.1

in the show today. That's longboardfunds.com. Welcome to Animal Spirits, a show about markets,

0:16.1

life, and investing. Join Michael Batnik and Ben Carlson as they talk about what they're reading, writing,

0:21.6

and watching. All opinions expressed by Michael and Ben are solely their own opinion and do not reflect

0:26.7

the opinion of Ridholt's wealth management. This podcast is for informational purposes only and

0:31.6

should not be relied upon for any investment decisions. Clients of Ridholt's wealth management

0:36.1

may maintain positions in the

0:37.6

securities discussed in this podcast. Welcome to Animal Spirits with Michael and Ben. On today's show,

0:45.2

we are joined by one of the OGs in Trent following, Cole Wilcox. Ben, I love the idea

0:50.9

of systematic investing, trend following, removing the emotion.

0:56.5

If only I could follow it.

0:57.7

I mentioned this on the show that I sold Netflix and meta, I don't know, both 50%

1:06.9

ago.

1:07.8

Why?

1:08.2

Because I doubled my money and I was out.

1:10.6

That is obviously not the right way to

1:12.5

invest. But I guess I need to learn that less than 10,000 more times before I finally follow the

1:17.2

trend. But what I'm attracted to about what they do is there's no emotion. They don't get scared

1:21.6

that the profits are going to go away. There's a trend. There's a system and they follow it.

1:25.5

It's also probably one of the reasons that trend following is not in concentrated positions

1:29.8

either, right? Most trend following strategies are diversified because they don't want to be in

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