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Welcome to Animal Spirits with Michael and Ben. On today's show, we are joined by a recurring guest.

Matt Bartolini. Matt is a managing director at State Street Global Advisors and

head of Spider America's research team. He knows all the ins and outs of the ETF industry.

On today's show, we spoke about primarily midcaps. I feel like they're an overlooked area of the market,

especially amongst advisors. You talk about either allocating to large versus mid or do we do

cap weight versus equal weight? And the midcap

400 is a forgotten index. So I spoke about this in the show a little, but my boss thought he had

like the markets figured out by investing in midcaps because he thought no one else did. And in the 2000s,

in the 2010s, its strategy really paid off because midcaps did really well in the lost decade.

And then they did pretty, they kept up reasonably well in the 2010s when the S&P kind of took off too.

You know what we didn't ask Matt, the migration in size as the market is drifted higher. Midcaps are now large companies.

I think on the high end, he said it was like 18 billion, right?

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