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Talk Heathen 09.23 with Doctor Ben and Jamie the Blind Limey RX7

Talk Heathen

Atheist Community of Austin

Society & Culture

4.6607 Ratings

🗓️ 9 June 2025

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Summary

In today’s episode of the Atheist Experience, Forrest Valkai and Objectively Dan, sort through calls of AI, logical fallacies, and apocalyptic dream interpretations. No circular arguments made today!

Chidumebi in PA asks how to combat religious students that insist on AI reliance to justify the Bible. It is important to teach children how to search and explain why there is bias behind some of the input. These models are designed for good output, not accuracy. Be sure they understand what material they will need to know as a requirement, regardless of their personal beliefs or use of AI language models. What is the student supposed to do if they end up in a career they do not know how to do as a result of their reliance on AI?

Mike in SC, thinks that AI can replace atheists but not theists because it can do anything atheists can do by using less resources. What is your understanding of the massive centers needed to support AI? If the soul is a factor, how do you explain an AI video that turns people to Christ? It is odd that you believe the actions of human beings that are atheists can be reduced down to a chat box. If dogs don’t have souls, is it cool that we just replace all dogs with AI? Our lives are more than just a sum of our labor and we find this conclusion dehumanizing. 

Herman in Canada has massive observations of “things begotting things” so therefore there must be a creator. It is important to point out that energy has not been created. What created the actual creator of the universe? How do you know that the reality of physics was exactly the same just before the big bang? If everything is contingent on something, what would a world that was not created look like?

Luc, a Catholic in Canada, explains his different perception in the prime mover argument and that is that rules need rulemakers. Why are the rules of nature excluded from this argument? We do not need to provide evidence for not believing in something. What evidence do you have that everything needs a rule maker? Of these two things, which is the more reliable pathway to truth; evidence or faith? Why is it good enough for you when the Catholic Church says something? We are not expected to just believe a thing because a teacher told us to; we must do the work/tests, and experiments to learn this stuff.

Prophet Daniel from Australia, believes there is one god for the entirety of existence and the interpretation of dreams made in the Book of Daniel prove his existence. How do you think this story has been adapted to meet the events that actually transpired? Why would this book be a reliable source when Daniel speaks with a dragon?

Jamie the Blind Limey, our backup host joins to close out the show and offer some post thoughts on some of the calls. Thank you for joining us this week and we will see you next time!

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0:00.0

I'd like you to bear with me for a second. I'm going to teach you about a particular medical term.

0:06.9

Now, hopefully you don't already know what this means, but if you do, you might know where I'm going

0:12.5

with this. The term is malignant neoplasm. And what it means in simple terms is when a cell

0:20.5

grows and divides out of control,

0:23.7

causing damage and problems for the being that it's part of.

0:29.1

Now in humans we call this cancer, though if you are a multicellular organism whose cells divide,

0:36.0

which is pretty much all life on the planet, you are

0:40.3

susceptible to this biological time bomb, and it's a case of when, not if.

0:47.3

Now this begs the question, if we were designed intelligently, created perhaps in the image of a higher power, why is this a thing?

1:01.0

Is it some kind of design flaw, a hideous mistake made by an incompetent designer, or was it put there on purpose? And if it was put there on purpose,

1:14.1

how could you think this creator is anything but apocalypticly cruel? So if you can square this

1:21.8

circle, if you can tell us that the creator not only created us, but had us all under this cellular sort of Damocles,

1:31.2

but it's neither cruel nor dumb, then please do call us because the show starts now.

1:40.7

Welcome, everybody. Today is June 8th, 2025. I'm your host, Dr. Ben. And with me today is

1:51.6

Jamie the Blind Limey, live from the studio. How are you doing, Jamie? As well as can be expected,

1:58.1

given the circumstances, gesture. Yeah. Anything, you know, interesting happening this past week for you?

2:07.1

Well, in the last couple of weeks, I've been helping the ACA with a bit of outreach.

2:14.3

We went to the capital.

2:17.2

Try and tell them no Ten Commandments in schools, please.

2:20.8

And, you know, that still kind of went through, but we made our voices heard and, you know,

2:26.1

sort of did our part, you know, so while we do these shows and it's fantastic to do so, the ACA is

2:31.2

doing more than just that. We are kind of like trying to fight the good

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